So-called 'abused' prisoners = The beheaders

No. But you probably would have been a good canidate for the SS.

Y’know, Jesus isn’t in his grave, which is rather the point. Just sayin’ and all :slight_smile:

Jeez, what are you people, like 15 or 16 (another reason The Pit is a waste of time). If you think anything I’ve said or linked deserves to be called nazi-ish, you are the most over-sensitive liberal douches ever…

Hail Ants:

Tell ya what, Skip. Point out to me one fucking instance where I in any way shape or form intimated that Bush (who I certainly don’t care for, but I imagine that most have figured that out by now) is like Hitler.

I’m waiting. . .

That’s what I thought. Now, if you don’t mind, show me where I said anything that could ever, in any version of reality, including youurs, that favorably compared the Abu Ghraib guards to SS troops.

I thought not.

Are you ever going to do anything besides strew the ground behind you with strawmen as you flee? Or are you actually going to address some of the people who have pointed out to you the blatant ignorance that you have displayed so very magnificently?

Again, I thought not.

I thank the fates that those such as you don’t control anything even remotely resembling foreign policy. Or else the globe might glow green and I’d hafta tell people I was from Canada. You are a waste of air.

Waste

Well, I’ll give it a try, so, here are nazi-ish quotes from your original post:

(my bolding)
The first point is this: None of the people improsoned at Abu Ghraib were the ones who murdered Berg, simply proven by the fact that the prisoners were detained at Abu Ghraib when the murder took place. Secondly, current evidence says that 70-90% of the prisoners at Abu Ghraib were detained there by mistake, and thus cannot be indirectly linked to Berg’s murder.

So, lets look at these points taken together. Your plan is to have hundreds of people killed, the vast majority of whom had no connection to the crime in question. In fact, from the way you posted, it seems that all you wanna do is kill some Arabs as revenge for the death of Berg. Which is, coincidentally, strikingly similar to what the Al Qaeda operatives in question did: kill one random American who had nothing to do with the torture that took place at Abu Ghraib. Does that make sense?

My dear Brutus, surely you must see the falseness of this statement.

While I would agree that having your head cut off is as bad as it gets, there are many indivuals and cultures for which this isn’t so. And one of them is our culture. “Give me liberty or give me death”. Doesn’t this suggest that living without our freedom is worse than death? There are many who value their honor and/or dignity more than their lives, and to be stripped of their honor and/or dignity, as they define it, could be considered a fate worse than death.

And, sadly, being raped, sodomized or tortured, or all of the above, might certainly be seen as stripping someone of their honor and/or dignity.

Do you see what I’m getting at, or have I botched it again?

Well Diogenes did in fact use the words “deliberately disingenuous fuck”, though in rereading it appears that they weren’t actually directed against you. However, don’t ask me why, but i’ve got a funny feeling that he would be perfectly okay with labelling you as a “deliberately disingenuous fuck”. Of course I may be wrong. If Diogenes posts a message saying that he was deeply offended by my erroneous description of his quote, then I’ll humbly apologize to him. However, since you are now taking cites from an organization that wants Osama bin Laden and Al Queda to triumph and destroy the United States, I don’t think I’ll feel too guilty about hurting your feelings.

I’ll take that as a compliment.

Tricky question, I admit.

If yes, and we are morally superior, then we *really, really * dropped the ball when we hired killers, rapists and in-general perverts to be prison guards in Iraq. Not to mention that whole ‘invasion under false pretense’ thing. Our collective faces must be red.

If no, and we are equivalent in terms of moral standards, then a video taped beheading should not cause such a stir in you, sir.
Or perhaps it is that your question presents somthing of a false dichotomy.

Let me really leave this Pit crap with a bang.

I’ve just had the pleasure of watching the unedited Nick Berg video.

Fuck these people.

Just as every German wasn’t a Nazi and every Japanese not Tojo we still carpet bombed them into the stone age day & night. Because that’s what you do in war.

Watching these savages saw off Berg’s head and shriek and yodel to their pig god while he screams in agony, I couldn’t fucking care less how many Iraqis got fucked in the ass with flourescent tubes. Next time wrap them with barbed wire first.

Let this be a lesson to every Arab muslim in the world. You are all going to pay for 9/11 for decades to come!

Or maybe I need to switch to decaf… :rolleyes:

A A-bomb to kill 5 people? Seems a lot to me…
Except of course if what you were doing was advocating genocide of the Iraki people…

You understand the mind set of the people who flew those planes into the WTC quite well.
You hatefilled cunt of a human being.

Oh and if as reported there are pics or videos of Americans killing Iraqis you surely wouldn’t have a problem with Iraqis going after Americans for decades to come would you?

Hail Ants, your posts disturb me greatly.

Your assertion that Iraqis should be killed en masse based on the barbaric actions of non-Iraqi terrorists (in a situation largely of the US’s making) makes your opinion tremendously similar to the opinions of the supporters of terrorists.

I really feel that you have succumbed to your anger to the degree of psychopathy. Really, I think you need to talk to a head doctor.

To be contrary, this is a valuable and insightful post. It’s a cry from the heartland that that the Pro-War folks were able to exploit so easily.

Generally, the similarly minded have enough inhibition to dress it up in some sort of rationalisation for polite company, then argue that to the bitter end, facts and the usual stuff notwithstanding.

But you know, there’s a reason the War rationale couldn’t stand up in a bat’s sneeze. It’s been a nod and wink to those many Americans like HA, who were comforted to understand the administration felt the same way.

And it is many Americans who hold the same violent & racist & cowardly views. It’s in the national character dammit, be proud of who we are. HA I embrace you.

[Aside]Hail Ants: What an appropriate name, sorta in a militaristic mindless-drone kinda way. I have even money on parody, can be a bit of a no-no in the pit.

You sir, are an idiot.

With running hot and cold irony tonight it’s hard to be sure what the peoples mean.

Geez, HA , maybe you oughtta watch a little less TV (yeah, and switch to decaf). By the logic of what you are saying above, if someone had shown you a video of Clara Harris running down her husband with the family Mercedes, I guess you’d be howling for the extermination of all middle-aged, upper middle-class Texas women.

Jeepers, can’t you see how stupidly you’ve been behaving?

Shhh, don’t scare it off. We should keep HA in a cage like a canary, to see what mainstream GOP America is thinking. Perhaps with a small bell.

Perhaps if Hail Ants feels so strongly about the cause, he should enlist in the military service of his choice and head on over there. Kill him some Arabs. Rah Rah Rah.

:rolleyes:

This isn’t mainstream GOP America. And it sounds more like a chickenhawk than a canary.