so half of oregon and some of ca wants to become "greater idaho"?

According to Wikipedia, the newest county in the US is Broomfield, Colorado, which is a consolidated city-county formed in 2001 from parts of several other counties. However, it says that doesn’t count county equivalents, so maybe there’s an Alaskan borough or independent city in Virginia that’s newer.

ETA ninja’d, dammit.

At least the plan makes sense geographically. Unlike back in 2001 when the New Hampshire communities of Newington and Rye had a massive tantrum over the new statewide property tax and claimed than they wanted secession so they could join Alaska…

There are and have been a batch of proposals to split New York. Part of the difficulty seems indeed to be that there’s disagreement into how many pieces, drawn along what lines, and even by what technique.

Personally I think we should leave it as it is. But then, I’m a fairly-far-left person living in a fairly-far-right area. And no, I’m not moving to the city. I’m a farmer; and I don’t want to live in a city.

Last I looked, SW Oregon and NW California weren’t very close to Idaho. But why should that deter anyone? San Diego can switch to New Mexico for all I care.

I haven’t read his book, but I need to pick it up. I read nearly all his articles in the Spokesman (I’m one of their dozen or so remaining print subscribers).

And the rural morons can’t get it through their heads that their rural counties are financed by taxes paid by the urbans, and now they’ll have to pay for it themselves.

I live in Sacramento County, and a house just around the corner from us has a State of Jefferson flag in front. Do they really think the state capital is going to secede along with the rednecks?

Secede. Given the political bent of Texas today, I really don’t want them to succeed politically.

Texas has no more ability to do that than any other state does.

Many are more hobbyists than morons. It’s a statement of unease with current politics and power, and a fashion statement, and frankly just something to chat about. Flying a State of Jefferson or Yucca County banner won’t be any more effective than flaunting a Free Tibet bumper sticker. Jefferson and Greater Idaho are right up there with Fredonia.

Secession is an entertaining game - as long as you don’t win.

Texas seccessionists don’t seem to be very forthcoming with the details of their new nation’s structure of government. That’s disappointing because I’m always interested in hearing someone’s thoughts about starting from scratch. It appears that this group is more concerned about independence itself than about governance, though it appears to be a libertarian operation with strong Christian influences. Islam was specifically noted as being against “Texas values” but the website didn’t offer any suggestions about taking action (loss of voting rights, e.g.). I smell a desire to be a 20th century South Africa, with minority white rule and a weak Bill of Rights.

And, in part, a reaction to being called morons be people who know next to nothing about us.

(I’m not a secessionist. I am rural.)

So a self-defeating, vindictive tantrum.

Sigh.

Do you think people who call you morons because of where you live are likely to be taking your genuine interests and needs into account when voting?

The moron-calling, to the extent that it’s true, has nothing to do with voting. Who are these people who are calling people morons because of where they live? What do moron-callers and moron-calling have to do with the issues in elections? Are the moron-called people and the moron-calling people exactly represented by politics?

When you’re voting you’re voting for someone to make important decisions about public policy. If you cast your vote based solely on the impression that someone out there thinks you’re a moron because of where you live, then you’re getting something wrong.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think very many people in politics call people morons solely on the basis of where people live but rather on how they vote.

And regarding having someone’s genuine interests and needs at heart, there’s a further malfunction. The people voting for the right are being bamboozled. It’s readily apparent to anyone who looks at the situation clearly. So how smart are they?

If a person is so angered by the broad category to which they belong being called morons that they’ll ignore their own well-being and all rational thought, then they’re a moron.

I have never in my 47 years heard a candidate or sitting politician here in one of the top metro areas of the nation run on a platform, or even a plank, of anti-ruralism, of “no money for rural roads or agriculture.” I have heard of rural candidates and politicians running on anti-urbanism (secession, no state money for city schools, none of “my” money for city welfare [as if nobody in the countryside uses welfare], etc.)

Being persuaded to vote against one’s interests is not intelligent.

I’ve been suburban, urban, rural, mixed, and am now closing on 20 years in a rural GOP county. My family qualifies as “redneck”. My first home was next to Grandpa’s little poultry ranch. I’ve survived working sub-minimum-wage manual labor. I think I possess some insight into hard-working city and country folk. Yes, they’re too easily persuaded to vote against their interests. Sad.

BTW I and family have lived in “sesh” areas of Oregon. That wasn’t an everyday item of conversation. Whiners threatened to move to Alaska to get away from Californians but I didn’t see many leaving. I knew a coastal Californian who talked of going to Belize where he could smoke cigars, shoot dogs, and beat his woman, all without bother from do-gooders. I don’t know how that worked out for him.