You weirdly seem to think that the terms of incarceration are based on the number of crimes committed, instead of what those crimes actually are. Thirty-four counts of jaywalking doesn’t get you sent to Attica. As others have explained, the nature of the offenses and whether it’s a first-time offender play a role.
But fundamentally, the prison system decides where you will go based on what’s best for the prison system. Where can the prisoner serve his time that’s most cost-effective to the state, most likely to keep him, other prisoners and staff safe, etc. Given these, Trump’s terms of incarceration would likely be harsher than an equivalent first-time offender convicted of falsifying business records.
Yes, but not for disagreeing with us but for being a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist.
As evidenced by this,
1.Trump won’t go to the joint. Because the Powers That Fucking Be, the heads of the government and holders of the wealth, are never gonna let one of the rich and powerful of ex-president level, really go to prison.
This (to an extent). It makes the GOP “pro-law and order” branding even more hypocritical than before. The Democratic congressional and senate ads are writing themselves as we speak. (“My opponent hates the American justice system and loves convicted felons.”)
However, it won’t push the branding over the edge into some critical state — it’s survived plenty of cognitive dissonance up until now, and it can stand yet more (sadly) — but it might be one factor in the minds of a few voters (and, as we’ve heard a million times, these days a few is all you need).
If you think that government and the big money don’t work hand in glove to benefit and shelter each other, well, you’ve got a downright touching faith in the system.
And, darling, the tin foil hat routine is so passe it’s the day before yesterday.
I guess my question is more of a “how does that work?” than anything else. As I always understood it, that collusion between government and big money was always in the line of each one fertilizing each other’s ground, so to speak, and making things easier for each other.
Any kind of immediate or acute kind of quid pro quo type actions that they could take on Trump’s behalf would pretty much be obvious and trackable. At best, you’d see a judge being lenient with respect to where he would be incarcerated, or maybe the judge would knock the sentence back if the jury over-penalized him. But that stuff’s got to be within the bounds of precedent and normal operation- the judge can’t realistically countermand a jury’s sentence from 5 years in prison to six months of probation without getting a LOT of scrutiny and possible disbarment and dismissal.
That’s why I’m hoping for something relatively lenient like house arrest. I feel like that’ll be more onerous for him- he can see the outside world, but can’t really interact with it, and nobody can claim it’s too harsh without sounding like a total idiot. And there’s a high risk that he’ll disobey the terms and get thrown into actual jail, without any claims of railroading, rigging, etc…
You are bringing it up much more than anyone else is.
BTW, can you name a single “cushy” prison Trump could be sent to. You really blew it the last time, but I’m willing to give you a second chance.
From what I’ve seen of the American prison system, if that is what college dorms are also like, I’m absolutely terrified of the post-secondary education system now, especially given as students pay for the privilege!
Wrong, dipshit. Your buddy Crow started that shit, and my every mention of the trope has been in response to him.
All the places where the bastards with the fat wallets and silk underwear get sent to. Any of the min.sec. FPCs that I already mentioned or the institutes in the article referenced in #80 Johnny LA posted upstream, would be like a week in Aruba compared to the real stripey hole, where you’d drop me if you caught me out of line.
So the answer is no, you can’t.
All you have to do is name ONE that the judge could send him to. You might want to do a little digging before naming any in particular, this time.
Nitpick. The trial was actually in the State Supreme Court. That’s what the trial level court are called in New York. The state’s highest court is the New York Court of Appeals. (The first level of appeal is to the Appellate Division of the Supreme Court.)
But your point is correct, Trump would have to find a federal constitutional argument to get to the US Supreme Court.