So how do we payback North Korea for the Sony hacking?

[Aquadementia]

@Dewey_Finn

I’m not sure why there needs to be a US government response to the hacking of a private corporation, especially when that corporation was apparently negligent in its information security practices.

Because of bomb threats to the general theater going public.

[Dewey_Finn]

The bomb threats (and the hacking) should be treated as a crime and investigated by law enforcement authorities. But an official US government response?

[carnivorousplant]

@Dewey_Finn

The bomb threats (and the hacking) should be treated as a crime and investigated by law enforcement authorities. But an official US government response?

I think so, a foreign country threatening to kill our citizens on our soil, yes.

[Rick_Kitchen]

Send them James Franco and Seth Rogen. That’ll show 'em.

[BigT]

I almost did this in PM, to avoid hijacking the thread (as everyone else was ignoring it) but I’m going to trust you guys not to continue this after I say all this. She said it in public, it needs to be admonished in public.

@monstro

I’ll come up with something once North Korea has harmed me and my life.

How utterly selfish. It doesn’t affect you directly, so you don’t care. North Korean terrorists attacked a US company for saying something they didn’t like, attacking the American freedom of speech, and you think there should be no response, because your life wasn’t affected.

Not only that, but you show contempt for other people for daring to have a thread on what type of response would be appropriate. My life was not harmed by 9/11. Does that mean I shouldn’t have wanted Bin Laden to be caught?

I’ve reported you for threadshitting, as you clearly show contempt for the topic and the people talking about it, but even that’s not quite enough for how shitty this post was.

[Wesley_Clark]

I like how Obama is referring to this as cybervandalism now, not as an act of war. Is that all one has to do, change the language? I know when Rwanda was going on nobody would call it genocide because if they did then the gov. was (I believe) legally obliged to do something. So just call it something else and boom the law doesn’t apply. Neato.

As to what our response should be? I think dropping a few million leaflets over Pyongyang with money and DVDs about the outside world would be nice. That or destroying some of Kim and his’s inner circles luxury items.

What will we actually do? No idea. Probably file a complaint with the UN.

[Wesley_Clark]

@Cicero

I can’t even work out how North Korea survives given its exports are about $8 billion a year (I think). With its massive military how can it keep going - especially now Russia has its own financial problems.

Maybe ask them to pay for the pizza in foreign currency?

They engage in crime. Seriously.

Drug Dealing, Counterfeiting, Smuggling: How North Korea Makes Money

They manufacture and sell drugs
They sell nuclear technology overseas
They counterfeit $100 bills (US bills) and sell them in China
They sell missiles overseas
They engage in massive insurance fraud (they take out insurance from insurance companies based in London for buildings in North Korea, then say the buildings were destroyed and demand insurance payouts, then refuse to let insurance inspectors into the country)
They sell pirated technology and counterfeits
They lease slaves to other nations

Basically crime is what keeps the system afloat. The money is used to bribe the inner circle, and the beat goes on.

[Senegoid]

@Wesley_Clark

They engage in crime. Seriously.

< . . . >
They engage in massive insurance fraud (they take out insurance from insurance companies based in London for buildings in North Korea, then say the buildings were destroyed and demand insurance payouts, then refuse to let insurance inspectors into the country)

< . . . >

How is this supposed to work? Wouldn’t the insurance companies just refuse to pay such claims? Especially if NK won’t let insurance inspectors in? Or even if they do? How’s NK supposed to enforce such a claim? What court, outside NK, would support that?

[Wesley_Clark]

Global Insurance Fraud By North Korea Outlined

[What_the]

@Little_Pig

And Sean Hannity getting butt fucked by a mule.

How about Obama getting lynched by a mob wearing Klan hoodies but with slanted eyeholes… that would be even more

[Muffin]

North Korea’s internet is down.

[Omar_Little]

@Muffin

North Korea’s internet is down.

That sucks. How do we expect them to watch *The Interview *on Crackle then.

[Shodan]

@Muffin

North Korea’s internet is down.

Coincidence? I wonder…

Regards,
Shodan

[Machine_Elf]

@Dewey_Finn

I’m not sure why there needs to be a US government response to the hacking of a private corporation, especially when that corporation was apparently negligent in its information security practices.

With that line of thought, there shouldn’t be a police response when your house gets broken into and vandalized, either. Especially if you were foolish enough to leave the door unlocked.

[davidm]

@Dewey_Finn

I’m not sure why there needs to be a US government response to the hacking of a private corporation, especially when that corporation was apparently negligent in its information security practices.

Because the alternative is to let foreign governments bully us into self-censorship.

It’s an attack on one of our basic principles, freedom of speech. If we allow things like this to go unchallenged then private corporations will stop producing anything that might upset some foreign government. From a bottom line viewpoint, it wouldn’t be worth the risk.

Do you really want governments like NK, or maybe some fundamentalist theocracies, to set the bar for we can say and see?

[Musicat]

@Muffin

North Korea’s internet is down.

But who will notice?

[PunditLisa]

@snowthx

I wonder if our little corner of the internet is under Kimmy’s surveillance. If we don’t shape up and do as we’re told, do you think they would hack the SDMB?

Just in case, I changed my password to “KimIsAWeenieHead.”

[standingwave]

@davidm

Because the alternative is to let foreign governments bully us into self-censorship.

It’s an attack on one of our basic principles, freedom of speech. If we allow things like this to go unchallenged then private corporations will stop producing anything that might upset some foreign government. From a bottom line viewpoint, it wouldn’t be worth the risk.

Do you really want governments like NK, or maybe some fundamentalist theocracies, to set the bar for we can say and see?

I guess the differences is that we just laugh while they demand apologies.

Remember That Time North Korea ‘Nuked’ America and No One Cared?

North Korea video shows US city in flames after missile attack

[Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor]

On the other hand, who gives a damn?
Nobody got killed.
A big corporation did lose money, but so what?

[FuriousGeorge]

@jtur88

Why do you think anybody needs to be “paid back”? In North Korea’s mind, what they did met somebody’s demand for payback. What is the purpose of perpetuating a continuing paradigm of payback?

because hypothetical conversation?
'm pretty sure neither the US government nor the DOD take their ideas and strategies from the SDMB. Unless, I am unaware of something here. 'luci = Abbie Hoffman? Bricker is Scalia?