To IvoryTowerDenizen I would say that it would be helpful the next time you make a subject off limits not to place it at the end of a warning about another subject entirely (i.e., adaher’s “Frankenstein” remark). I didn’t make the Frankenstein remark and had no dog in that fight so I simply skipped on to the next post without noticing that you had also made mention of transgender comparisons off limits. This instruction was further obscured by the fact it was followed by two more comments referencing the Frankenstein remark, making it look like the entire post was in regard to what adaher said and nothing else.
Given that the warning seems to have been made on the assumption that I was deliberately trying to skirt a mod’s instructions when the fact is I simply hadn’t noted that that instruction was tacked onto the end of a different warning about a subject that I had nothing to do with and didn’t care about, I think a recision of that warning would be a reasonable and honorable thing to do.
As I’ve already said, the post started with a comment about adaher’s remark and ended with two sets of quotes relating to that remark, giving the entire post the look of an admonition to adaher. I stopped reading when I saw “Frankenstein” in the first sentence, thinking the entire post was in regard to that.
I was more struck by Una’s “I dare you to break the rule against insults”.
I think you got a warning instead of a mod note because the comparison is one that is hard to refute, and because tempers are running high at the moment.
Good rule of thumb: If you see moderator instructions in a thread, read the whole post. While we’ll generally cut some slack if you posted at the same time as the moderator, “I couldn’t be bothered to read your post,” is not an argument that’s going to get you anywhere.
I title all my mod posts with the header Mod Hat On so there’s no confusion that I’m giving mod instructions.
Your post was clearly in violation.
When I saw your post I checked the time stamp to make sure you didn’t post just after I made my note. Yours was 23 hours later. There is no reason you should not have seen it and read it. I’m sorry you’re unhappy, but there’s no gray zone here.
As Miller said, next time there is a mod note, read it.
And as is apparent in the section you’ve omitted but which can be seen in the link to your note that I posted above, you followed that text with two more paragraphs containing remarks made by adaher and Una Persson referencing the Frankenstein post, creating as I said the impression that the whole post was aimed at adaher.
Admittedly, it would have been helpful had I read that far. But as I said, I stopped reading once I saw adaher was being moderated for the Frankenstein post.
I haven’t said anywhere that I didn’t think you were acting as a mod.
I haven’t been contesting that either.
Respectfully, yes there is. First, you moderated adaher for his Frankenstein remark.
Then you dropped down a line making a new paragraph that contained the instruction in question.
Then you dropped down and posted two more segments of dialog having to do with the Frankenstein remark.
This created an impression that the whole post was aimed at adaher’s Frankenstein comment and it never occurred to me to drill down to see if perhaps it included moderation aimed at everyone as most mod notes and warnings don’t.
Sorry, but I believe there is and you’ve simply chosen to ignore it.
I note another omission in the following from your post above.
Actually it started with “Everyone involved:” This would have likely caused me to stop reading also since I wasn’t involved in the Frankenstein brouhaha.
I think you’d do well to take more care with your wording in the future.
Doesn’t matter. If you see a mod note in a thread in which you are participating, read it. “I didn’t think it was about me!” isn’t an excuse.
Doesn’t matter. If you see a mod note in a thread in which you are participating, read it.
Doesn’t matter. If you see a mod note in a thread in which you are participating, read it.
Doesn’t matter. If you see a mod note in a thread in which you are participating, read it.
Doesn’t matter. If you see a mod note in a thread in which you are participating, read it.
Doesn’t matter. If you see a mod note in a thread in which you are participating, read it.
You are, of course, free to believe whatever you want. But while you’re a poster on the SDMB, if you see a mod note in a thread in which you are participating, read it.
I hope I’ve made the position of the SDMB sufficiently clear?
You know, I kinda see his point. His post seemed to have almost nothing to do with the transgender hijack. I am not buying his “not reading” argument, however.
However,* "adaher Your use of “frankenstein creation” to describe transgender people who have had surgery is bordering on trolling. "*
It wasn’t bordering. It was totally completely & utterly. No “bordering” about it. How** Starving Artist** gets a Warning while **adaher **gets away scotfree with a Note is befuddling.
SA, I think you’d have to agree that it would be impossible to moderate the board if “that warning doesn’t apply to me because I didn’t read it” was an acceptable excuse.
Moderator warnings and instructions are posted. They’re available for anyone to read. After that, ignorantia juris non excusat.
You should be saying “My apologies. The violation was unintentional. I did fail to read the whole mod note. I’ll be more careful in the future.”
Anyway, I’m a BIG TIME SKIMMER (such that I once recommended a book to my wife as having no sex scenes in it and it had a sex scene in every other chapter) yet I managed to catch this one.
Can we compromise on 300?