So, is Meghan still the Duchess of Sussex or not?

Wasn’t Charles investiture as Prince of Wales at Carnarvon Castle a political move because of the unhappiness of the Welsh at the time?

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One of the points Meaghan made in her first interview with Oprah, IIRC, was that Archie was not eligible for security since security was (she said) only available to children and grandchildren of the monarch. I presume if Harry were to kiss and make up, their children would get security back in the UK now.

Odd, considering Eddy8 also was a great-grandchild of reigning monarch, so these things happen, but I suppose things were different back in the day.

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I read that once. And that David Lloyd George taught him a few words of Welsh for the ceremony.

According to the documentary The Crown, he went to school in Wales and legitimately learned to speak rudimentary Welsh.

That would be quite a trick for the Welsh Wizard, considering he died three years before Charles was born.

Ha! That’s just what the Cymruminnati want you to think!

Okay, clearly my memory was playing me false. But according to Unca Cecil, Charles did say a few Welsh phrases at his investiture.

Charles was seconded from his degree at Cambridge where he was reading Archaeology, Anthropology and History to Aberystwyth for a term to acquaint him with Welsh History and Language.

Yes, of course. “Master Archie” is far more typical as a form of address than “Lord Dumbarton”.

IIRC the Sussexes were deprived of the style HRH, which seems to be considered more important in royal circles than mere titles like Duke and Duchess.

In general, I doubt that the Crown really cares to take away peerage titles, once granted, barring extreme cases of treason or other crimes, because that would be seen as correcting a mistake. For example, during World War I some German cousins of the Royal Family, holding titles in both countries, were deprived of their British titles because they fought on the German side during the war. But moving to Montecito doesn’t come anywhere near that level.

The “Crown” has no power to “take away peerage titles”.

Peerages are political appointments and can only be removed by an act of parliament. The most recent act that did this was the Titles Deprivation Act 1917 (TDA).

This does not prevent peers from voluntarily giving their title up as was the recent case of Paula Vennells, the former chief executive of Britain’s Post Office, who said on Tuesday she would hand back a national honour after mounting public anger over the wrongful conviction of postal staff on her watch.

A Bill of Attainder would be another way to do it.

That’s the same thing. A bill of attainder is simply a punishment imposed directly by the legislature, i.e., in British terms, an Act of Parliament.

Can you translate that into American English? I can’t tell from context if that meant he failed or was awarded an honor.

But that’s unconstitutional!
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The Constitution is whatever Parliament says it is.

I don’t think it’s either - I know “seconded” in an employment context means to temporarily transfer someone to a different location, position or organization so my guess is that in this context it means he left the university he was attending to attend a university in Wales for some period of time and returned to and ultimately received a degree from the original university.

Next they’ll be issuing letters of marque.

Yes, the TDA is what I was referring to. I wasn’t aware that the granting of honors has to be approved by Parliament, so thanks for pointing that out.

No, the granting of peerages doesn’t have to be approved by Parliament. However, outside the narrow confines of the Royal Family, granting a peerage to a non-Royal is a political decision, made by the monarch on the advice of the government (executive, not legislative).

Once granted, a peerage is a type of right, and therefore can only be taken away by an act of Parliament.

I had considered Meghan to be one of the worthless, idle rich with servants catering to her every whim–but it seems I am wrong:

For those who have been hiding in a bunker for completely understandable reasons, With Love, Meghan sees the Duchess of Sussex cooking, flower arranging, candle making, jarring preserves, scenting towels with lavender, making harvest baskets, blowing balloon arches, arranging fruit into rainbows and sprinkling dried edible flowers on literally everything. Creating “moments” is her jam. Though jam, which usually contains equal parts and sugar and fruit, is very much not her jam because she feels the traditional recipe ratio detracts from the fruit, so actually she’s all about slightly less sweet preserves.