So is threadshitting now acceptable?

No, not seriously. That’s what most folks like to call “a joke.”

… I think I see the problem here.

This is how I see it. In fact, I’ve seen threads where the person will give some kind of “scariest thing ever!” or “Funniest video ever!” and people come in and question the person’s taste and do so with gusto and that seems OK and not threadshitting at all.

As far as “DON’T READ IT DURRRRRR” then label it so that people know it’s just jizz in your pants time because OMG A GIRL’S BUTT IS MAGICAL so we know not to waste our time. I honestly thought it was going to be a clever billboard.

Now, to cut off the “OMG GYNOCAUST” dipshittery it’s not that I was offended at all by the billboard or that people like it. It’s funny to me more than anything that the mere sight of a woman’s buttcheeks can cause that kind of devotion that one would take a pic of it and upload it to a messageboard. It’s also equally funny that this is threadshitting when pushback in those other funniest/scariest/best whatever is not threadshitting.

FinnAgain, honey, the humorless feminist meme is so played out. C’mon now. And let’s be real: that’s not a joke-- several of the actual offenderati have made reference to it over the last week. I think this is one of those situations where you joke about something enough that everyone thinks you might actually be serious.

Frankly, I don’t think what I did was threadshitting or I wouldn’t have done it. There were other jokes in the thread about how ridiculous getting all worked up over a lady in a bikini is, perhaps just more light-hearted than my contribution. It’s funny, it wasn’t an issue until the brigade that follows me around the board started getting their peanut gallery on.

Please let me know which words in the OP were letting us know that it is CLEARLY about an attractive woman so I can spot it as such in the future. So you don’t have to click anything here it is :

For the record I thought it was going to be a pro-atheist billboard. Hopefully **FinnAgain **can help me crack the code so I can tell how it was clearly about an attractive woman.

This is to be expected from the stupid new rule about “misogynistic” posts. You can insult any group in the world, even though many posters are members of that group, but a mild sexual joke about a person who is clearly not a member of the board is imputed to all female posters and isn’t tolerated.

I agree this thread was to be expected. More from the ‘will nitpick anything to death that has to anything even vaguely to do with criticising misogyny’ angle though.

Otara

What, not ‘sugar tits’?
And I wasn’t riffing on humorless feminists. Just you.

Just so I can comprehend your worldview: in your world, butting into a conversation that men are having about an attractive woman, and trying to shame them for having the audacity to not be closeted about their sensuality, because you’re offended that men tend to like attractive, scantily clad women, that’s not being one of the Offenderati. But objecting to your maternalistic, patronizing, condescending nonsense? Well, how unreasonable!

That’s a bit like how Fundies claim they’re being persecuted because they can’t impose their standards on other people.

Again, just so I’m clear , in your world, going into the thread solely to denigrate the posters is not threads hitting? “LOL, you American Idol fans are all losers.”

Tell me more about the conspiracy that’s out to get you.

Ellen, you wrote

By that “logic”, it’s perfectly fine to go into a “Game of Thrones” thread and voice one’s weariness about it. Or going into a football thread and doing a “hurrdurr–peeples who like der football are teh dumb” riff, like Diosa did?

This is clearly threadshitting. Don’t like the topic? Don’t read it OR link to a BBQ pit thread. But to me, your ruling encourages threadshitting, which I’d like to see less of, even if Diosa has to be ever so slightly annoyed by a thread and start a new one in response.

I actually quit reading threads about the show The Office here because there were always people who came in each and every week to let us know how they were weary of it and this couldn’t happen and that couldn’t happen. In a recent True Blood thread people came in to talk about how the show wasn’t good anymore and blah blah blah so your Game of Thrones example is a poor one.

Are you saying you’ve never seen people push back when someone has a “best ______ whatever” thread? You’ve never seen people question the OP of a thread like that?

ETA: For the record, I don’t think it was threadshitting but I also think EllenCherry should have just said that it wasn’t and to carry on. She could reference these best-ever threads in the past and move on. The commentary wasn’t needed.

Where was the misogyny in the OP of that thread–

Or to break it down:

  1. I like this billboard (presumably because I find the woman and/or her butt attractive)

  2. I get to see it every day on my way to work. Yay me!

  3. I’m surprised they got approval to put it up (presumably because South Carolina’s pretty conservative about such things)

How in the world is that misogynistic?

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The difference is “This show sucks” in The Office or Game of Thrones thread, is a far different beast from actually insulting/making fun of people who watch the show. Which is what Diosa was doing.

I’ve certainly seen people push back on a “Best ________ whatever” thread. I don’t like it, but it’s not threadshitting here (frankly, I don’t see a problem with “appreciation, no criticism” threads, but that’s not how the rules are here). I don’t think I’ve seen a “Hurr-durr…all you Simpsons fans are teh retardts” comment without a mod-note about it.

I disagree and think it was threadshitting, but I didn’t think the billboard was any big deal one way or the other and, other than not wanting this to become a precedent for other mod action, don’t care that much about that thread in particular*
*says the guy who just rambled on for multiple paragraphs in multiple posts. :wink:

Diosa’s posts were a bit obnoxiously sarcastic, Ellen’s mod note seemed a little overly permissive, the OP and existing thread were pretty content-free, and this thread is pure kneejerk reaction.

So Fenris, was this threadshitting too?

Apparently there was some kind of hidden signal in the OP to tell us it was clearly about an attractive woman. I guess you don’t have the decoder ring either. Ask FinnAgain if you can borrow his.

Ellen’s moderating was sexist and supportive of threadshitting in any thread in her forum started to talk about attractive women. While civility is all well and good, you should see to your own house, first.

Threatening to close the thread due to rudeness, when it’s a thread caused by a mod encouraging women on the Dope to threadshit whenever men annoy them/talk about attractive women, even in threads clearly devoted to that from the OP? That’s Jabberwockian.

Honestly, is this new board policy? Because a whole lot of folks are weary about about a whole lot, and I’m sure that they would enjoy mod sanction to copy Diosa’s behavior. Is that really the administration’s plan, or are you folks not any more okay with sexist moderating than you would be with racist moderating, and you still think threadshitting is bad, even directed at men who don’t have the good graces to be ashamed of their sexuality?

To stay on topic, is saying that you think another poster is threadshitting a mandatory report?

I know you’re not supposed to say another poster is trolling. And no personal insults. And there was a recent issue where a moderator said you couldn’t imply that another poster was a liar. I got involved in a situation where I was told I couldn’t imply that another poster was racist. I think I recall a situation where some people were warned against using the phrase “pulling up a lawnchair”. And of course there was the recent issue of sexist remarks.

I feel one of the main purposes of this board is debating. And restrictions like the above on what can be posted put harsh limits on any debate. Ideally the best response to a weak argument is a strong counter-argument. People should be able to post things like accusations that other people are trolls or liars or racists - and then face the responses back in which the subject of their accusation defends his or her position.

If somebody says something stupid to me in a debate, I want to be able to respond to them and point out the stupidity of what they said. I don’t want to have a nerf debate where I’m supposed to send a message to a mod saying “Excuse me. This other poster and I were debating something and he said something stupid. Could you intervene?”

I think that guy eventually got himself banned for pulling that shit.

I don’t actually disagree with this. I mean, is disagreeing with the premise of an OP-- whether on its face or due to perceived absurdity-- trolling or threadshitting or whatever you want to call it?

I seem to recall the issue of the harms of limiting speech being brought up over and over again in the long and tumultuous misogyny thread before the rules were clarified. If you should be allowed to say your feelings on something, why shouldn’t I be able to say mine? Or is it all a matter of extreme context? Frankly, I like a good thread-- even a good thread about sex or hot people-- but promising a good thread then just posting a lame photo of some chick’s ass on a billboard that you took because you were so enamored on your daily commute is silly enough that you should expect to get laughed at. If I made a thread “BEST BOOK EVER” and linked to Twlight do you think it would stay on topic with PRAISE OF THE TWILIGHTS? C’mon.

do not threadshit my sparkly vampire!

You didn’t do that.
You insulted the posters in the thread.