I have to agree with Esprix. There is enough bullying that goes on here with people starting a thread about a poster and others joining in a mob mentality verbal lynching.
If that is how it can be on a board devoted to disspelling ignorance, I can only assume it is worse on a board filled with the ignorant.
I think I’d rather have Pearl send me nothing but movies by Bert I. Gordon and be without the bots(oh, the horror).
As my dear, dear Uncle Bish once said of a particularly ignorant homophobe who was in serious need of enlightenment, but who was not worth either of our time, “He lives in Kansas - isn’t that punishment enough?” At the time meant as a jibe against his ignorance and his home state*, I have since extrapolated its meaning to include those whose self-inflicted ignorance they are more than fit to wallow in without regard to any help from me; truly, that is punishment enough for me in some cases, and in this case, they are more than welcome to revel in their conservative Utopia, as I am more than satisfied with the feeling that, as an open-minded liberal, in this instance I am a better person.
Esprix
[sub]*This is not to say, of course, that all (or, for that matter, any) Kansas state residents are ignorant, slack-jawed yokels, but the stereotypical hayseed midwest dimbulb persists nonetheless.[/sub]
Look dumbass, anyone familiar with your hypocrisy, your foot stomping hissy fits, and your tiresome claims of lynch mobs, would have noticed your not so veiled continuous whining that you carried over to this thread. I just happened to be the one to call to your attention the fact that your sniveling is getting old and your hysterical yelping is getting stale.
If, as you say here:
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. . . life on the SDMB is so tough, I mean with all of us bullies (i.e. those who dare disagree with the almighty Hastur) banding together in a verbal lynch mob, then maybe you need to find a playground that doesn’t make you cry when you fall down and go “boom”.
I just read the article linked to in the OP. This 10 y/o makes faces and weird noises to get attention, but instead he’s picked on. If I were in this kid’s school, I’d pick on him too. What’s with the faces and noises? Timothy’s trying too hard to get attention, and now that he’s getting it he’s being made a victim. What’s really strange is that he was teased at the Lutheran school. The kids at the Lutheran school knew nothing about Timmy’s past experiences, so I think Timmy is doing something to cause this teasing. We all know that kids can be cruel sometimes, it’s something everyone grows up with. I was picked on to some extent when I was 10, but I also picked on other kids, and those kids picked on other kids, and so on. Bullies always have their own bullies, whether it’s a classmate or a sibling or a parent. It’s a neverending cycle, and not one that can be remedied by begging for it to stop.
Hastur, Diane-PLEASE do not hijack my thread, 'kay?
I think waht Hastur meant is that personal attacks are already pretty common here. So guys-please, take it somewhere else.
And no one has to go to FR, I wasn’t asking them too. Just imagining, I’d LOVE to see these morons try to explain themselves.
It could be that Timmy tries to be funny, and make people laugh, and that’s why he gets picked on. I used to try sometimes making funny jokes, but instead I got made fun of. Maybe he’s unsure of himself. Who knows?
I am getting e-mail from one of them, claiming that he, and Rush and Matt Drudge all know the truth. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
You do realize just how ironically hilarious that statement is coming from you, don’t you? I mean, can you really be THAT dense! You, of anyone on this board, has been a shining example of bullying and total assholishness.
Here’s some unsolicited advice, Pumpkins. Don’t say things like you did in this thread (and many others) if you don’t have the 'nads to withstand the comments of others. Don’t behave like a total dick and then cry like a school girl when someone strikes back or hurts your widdle feelings. Life here on the SDMB will be so much easier for you.
I read through the entire thread about Timmy on Free Republic. Creeeeeeeepy.
I can agree that ADHD and its variants are highly over diagnosed, and incorrectly so. This is no different than when Multiple Personality Disorder(I believe now renamed Disassociative Personality Disorder), was mega over diagnosed in the early to mid 90s.
I find it creepy that many on that board were claiming the boy was being feminized. There seems to be a very rigid concept of gender identity over there which paints all things feminine as bad, and feminist as feminazis. How these people demonize anything they consider different than they are makes me wonder if they were bullies when they were in school.
Sorry, I didn’t read the entire thread, so forgive me if I’m being redundant.
I don’t know what it’s like for a guy, but girls can be cruel to each other in ways that’s almost incomprehensible, if you haven’t been on the receiving end of it.
Time and again, I’ve been confronted with the information that the “cool girls” didn’t like me. Fine, I thought. Water finds its own level, and I didn’t want people like that, people who would reject someone because “you have cover-up on your nose and it looks kind of caked”, for friends anyway. In fact, I don’t think people like that know what a friend really is. I just wanted to accept it and move on.
But, I wasn’t allowed to accept it and move on. There was always one girl or other who would take it upon herself to make sure I understood that they didn’t like me. Always one who would sit by me on the bus and explain, unasked and in a patronizing tone, that they didn’t like me because of this or that, and if I’d only change… Or they’d volunteer to be my lab or gym partner so they could tell me this, or call me up, ostensibly to chat but really to lecture me on how important it was to get a perm and stop always bringing a non-curricular book to school.
And if you’re wondering why I put up with this, the answer is that I couldn’t get away. I didn’t want to pummel someone off the bus seat, or get loud with my lab partner, because that would make me look like the troublemaker. I did stop accepting their phone calls, FWIW, but that didn’t put them off.
I just don’t think that it was always like this. My impression is that, back in the day, if the In Crowd didn’t like you, they simply ignored you, which left you free to make friends outside the golden circle. Now it seems to be all about beating someone down.
Why?! Why should it matter so much that I wore long skirts to school? Once I wore what I thought was a really creative outfit: a t-shirt with horizontal gray stripes and a skirt with vertical blue stripes the same width. They didn’t clash; they were complimentary. But I had to hear about it for three fucking days. Why did you wear that? Are you blind? Don’t you know that stripes don’t go with stripes? I can’t stand to look at that! Don’t you know how to dress?
And the question I could never get answered is, How the fuck does it affect you? I said “If you don’t like it you can…” every single time, but they never did; they just kept at it, even after I stopped answering. Why?!
“Why are you friends with that Shannon girl, she’s really weird!”
Um, why do you care, you stupid fucking little bitch.
And then, I remember pulling back the sides of my hair and securing it in back with a scrunchie. This other girl who also had her sides pulled back with a scrunchie threatened to beat me up for “copping her style.” So the next day, I wore it anyways-only I pulled my bangs down over my forehead.
To this DAY, I wish I had turned around, looked her slowly in the eye and stated, “What? I wasn’t aware that you had a patent on a hairstyle. Next time, I’ll contact the US Patent Office.”
Or being made fun of for wearing a big floppy hat and this long babydoll dress I made in home ec. I ALWAYS used to wear that dress-and get super compliments, and everyone was amazed when I wore it. But everyone made fun of that hat. BUT…
You ever notice that the “In” crowd can get away with wearing interesting new stuff-they’re looked upon as trend setters. But outsiders do the SAME THING, and they’re ridiculed.
Thankfully, that was only freshman year. The next year, I was not in the in crowd, but not in the outcrowd-I had friends from various groups and stuff, mostly from different classes. I was just, “Oh, that quiet girl who reads a lot and plays with her hair,” which was better than, “That really retarded mental chick who picks lice.”
Guin, I am so glad to hear that it wasn’t only me!
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Indeed. And, I don’t know if this happens in every school, but the administration at my school also had a double standard. They judged acceptable skirt length by eyeball, not by any kind of fairness, like you kneel and if it hits the ground you’re okay. No, Dean Hatzis decreed that my somewhat short jumper, with black tights, so I wasn’t showing any skin, was unacceptable. Even when I knelt down and said, “See, it hits the floor,” she said, “The minute you get out of sight, you’ll hike it up again.” Meanwhile, one of the Heathers wore a skirt that was not only a mini, but had a slit in the back going alllll the way up, and bare legs! And furthermore, why aren’t cheerleader uniforms subject to the skirt-length rules?
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Good. Good for you.
Also, what a lot of people don’t seem to realize is, you can’t just decide you’re going to conform and then go for it. “They” go shopping in packs, they make their decisions as a group, and they don’t set foot out the door without consulting each other on what they’re going to wear. It doesn’t just happen. If you’re not one of them, then you’re not in on this, and you’re going to be different by default.
Plus which, it sounds like you’re a bit younger than I am. I had the misfortune to attend high school in the '80s, and I wasn’t rich, so I couldn’t have worn all that Esprit/Firenza/Ocean Pacific shit even if I’d wanted to.
For me I was never hated by the in crowd, I was hated by everyone. In elementary school a girl and a boy would do what you describe, and the rest would simply make it known that I was hated and/or feared. Middle school made elementary school seem pleasant, though really I read more books during middle school than most do in a lifetime.
Have you checked the Conspiracies forum over there yet? Some bizarre, bizarre stuff in there. I never thought I’d see someone argue that Tim McVeigh was innocent, but there it is. Apparently, they think the US government is responsible. I haven’t found any posts mentioning what color the sky is in their world yet. I’m guessing green.
My guess is camo green. They also attribute U.S. school shootings to the U.S. Federal government and people of other races and nationalities:
“Corruption at the Federal level, including Presidents, Congress, Courts, I.R.S., F.B.I., C.I.A…an almost endless list. How can schools remain free of corruption when their bosses at the Federal level continue to grow along immoral lines and personal values decline to the present low levels?” . . . “Affirmative Action, uncontrolled/unlimited Immigration,Courts, membership in the United Nations are among the mixed messages sent to the children by the Feds.” . . . “Yes, the government schools are producing shooters.”