He also said "I’m not saying he’s not a hero. . . I just prefer heroes that didn’t get captured. . . "
I never knew he was considered a war hero; I knew he was captured and tortured and I’ve admired his perseverance of that mistreatment. War hero? Maybe?
So because you can find one leftist years ago who thought McCain wasn’t a war hero, the discussion is over?
Maybe this would help you: Tu quoque - Wikipedia
This style of argumentation is extremely silly, unhelpful, and annoying. Too bad it’s become the standard thanks to the internet glurge conveyor belt that passes for political talk nowadays.
Dozens if not hundreds. Even some in this thread.
I can’t speak for anyone but myself, but IMO the only reason Trump is getting attention is because he has no filter on his mouth.
Myself, I am tired of being routinely lied to by my State and Federal government officials. Trump has never been expected to reign in his mouth (and I don’t know if he even has those skills), and just blurts out whatever he wants. That’s kinda refreshing (and entertaining).
Do I agree with what Trump says (on McCain or immigration)? Hell no!
Do I think Trump could be/should be President of the U.S.? Hell no!
Trump lost his cool and got personal because of something dismissive McCain said about Trump’s campaign. Very un-Presidential of Trump. (I am beginning to suspect that Trump is a bit of an attention hound.)
The definition of “hero” is apparently very subjective. (And that’s ok.) IMO, McCain’s Vietnam service was “heroic”.
Bolded seconded with both hands. He is so different from the political robots from both sides who are fed lines by their aides. I know I have a visceral negative reaction when I see every politician running for president right now speaking, from both sides. Except for two of them. Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders. Because neither of them is scripted, groomed, and focus-group-directed.
Trump is more focus-group-polished than any candidate. He’s just trying to appeal to a different audience.
McCain did save some of his fellow prisoners, by all accounts. I’m not sure that “war hero” is the right term; I tend to think of war heroes as successful generals or even rank-and-file soldiers who accomplish something great. I also don’t think there’s an “objective” measure of heroism.
McCain is unquestionably a hero, though - and I said the same to fellow lefties who questioned his heroism in 2008. That is not to say he is entitled to unquestioning deference on military matters, or anything.
One interesting thing about this is that I recently fell down a rabbit hole of FAR RIGHT websites that call him “Hanoi John” and consider him a traitor that was protected by his admiral father.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/07/18/trump-right-about-hanoi-john-mccain/
In 2000, my lunatic right wing parents thought McCain was a Manchurian candidate who was brain washed by the communists and would be activated once elected which is whey they supported Bush in the primaries. They still preferred the Manchurian candidate to the Kenyan Muslim.
That’s because The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution gave Johnson the power to wage war without a formal declaration of war by Congress. If you’re going to debate the Viet Nam War, learn the facts.
Come on man, this is U.S. history 101 … (and I’m Canadian!)
ETA: I see others have pointed this fact out already.
Screw that. I WANT my politicians to have a filter. I WANT them to think before they speak, before they act. Considering ones words is not lying. Blurting out the first thought in your head isn’t telling the truth, either. It’s not refreshing, it’s enraging.
As for McCain, “war hero” isn’t the best term, but it’s been diluted anyway. He endured.
I may not know what a hero is, but I know *Trump *doesn’t know.