So um, this is not going well so far

So far. Until he keels over from a coronary or a stroke one day.

A positive sign, however, is that Trump is backpedaling on several foreign issues, like “One China” or the implantation of new colonies in Palestine. Which means that he can be brought (or bring himself) to reason in favour of stability.

Number one hasn’t happened; number two did (good for you, Trump! you got SOMETHING done!); number three did (you’re on a roll!); four and five he sort of split the baby, and I haven’t heard anything on number six.

Oh, but none of these happened on the first day, but who is counting?

Oh, there’s more!

One, hasn’t happened; two, did happen; three, hasn’t happened; four, I haven’t heard of it if it did happen; five, I haven’t heard anything about that either; six, sounds like he met that at least partially; seven, there’s only crickets on this one.

Ahh, fuck, there’s more.

First, nothing’s happened; second, ok, that’s checked off the list; third, that’s unconstitutional but hasn’t happened anyway; fourth, I guess that’s starting; and fifth, got cock-blocked by the judiciary.

Man, that’s a poor batting average of things he intended to do on day one. He didn’t even try for most of it.

Or bought. :smiley:

That’s the next shitshow if we live through Trump’s. That piece of crap Ryan will look like a statesment next to Trump.

Well, a lot of us were saying Trump’s presidency would be a Class A Charlie Foxtrot, were he to be elected.

And a lot of us knew that undoing the ACA would be a lot harder than Republicans thought it would be. (At least, we hoped they would find it difficult.)

Another positive point (even though irrelevant for Americans) is that distrust of Trump is forcing European leaders into more unity and into ignoring some of their divergences.

An instance of that is Merkel seemingly convincing the Polish government that the risks weighing on international trade for Poland and Germany alike requires to take a step away from Washington, especially in the light of Trump’s views on Russia and NATO (since protection from Russia by NATO is the main motive behind Poland’s alignement with Washington) and that when all is said and done, Germany and the EU at large is a more reliable partner for Poland than the USA wrt both economy and foreign affairs, and that despite the deep political and ideological divide between these countries.

More generally, their often quite overtly expressed and very real concerns about Trump’s policies (and even values), lead them to ponder about how to face collectively the eclipse of a reliable American partner.

Trump presidency might be a very good thing for Europe at a time when the EU is facing a crisis. If it actually turns out to solidify and strenghten Europe, I must admit that I’ll have to bless Americans for having elected him. Sorry :frowning: .

I was on a conference call for Swing Left yesterday, it’s an organization that’s trying to swing the House left in 2018. There were 60,000 people on the call according to the organizers. I expect more people will get involved as it gets closer to the election. We won’t be able to keep outrage at 100%, but people are turning that outrage to action.

You don’t think that Poland’s massive incursion into Belarus will cause some problems?

In fairness, he probably didn’t realize he wouldn’t have a Secretary of Commerce in place before he took office.

Why not? His National Security Adviser was already making policy deals.

I must admit that I’m totally unaware of this issue, I didn’t follow the news during the week end. Link?

You’re unaware of it because it hasn’t happened, but Trump’s people seem to think it has.

You’re saying that now. After the election I started a thread in GD speculating about the fate of ACA. I took for granted that parts of it would survive, but the overwhelming consensus of liberals was pretty much that the Republicans would immediately repeal it entirely. Them not caring about whether anyone lived or died etc.

*Mountain Dew! Lay Google, say voos amee!
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Trump’s Amateurish White House Thinks Poland Invaded Belarus

Yes, it is a joke, but, no, I’m not making this up! May no? No, February!

No, you’re consistently an idiot and asshole in many other threads. Your asinine behavior in GQ is just one symptom of that.

Given that they’d been promising to do exactly that for years, certainly giving their best impressions of people who didn’t give a damn whether people lived or died, and given that they fought like tigers against insuring them in the first place back in 2009 and early 2010, also giving that distinct impression, and and given that they’d repeatedly challenged the law in court in different ways, reinforcing that impression, and given that they did a dry run of this a year ago, which sailed through Congress to Obama’s veto, further reinforcing that impression - yes, I’m still surprised that the repeal didn’t arrive on the President’s desk at 12:01pm on January 20.

Why shouldn’t I have been surprised? They repeatedly and consistently spoke with word and deed. And of course, there are still no guarantees that they won’t gut the ACA, though their enraged constituents (can we call bullshit on the ‘outside agitators’ and ‘paid protesters’ meme?) are making it harder for them.

Seriously, what were you expecting? OK, I too was expecting more action from Congress. But Trump came in with all sorts of bullshit about MAGA and winning and yada yada, but other than the wall, tariffs, and deporting people, no plans for how he was going to turn America back into a paradise. Just that he alone could fix it.

He didn’t try to learn anything about what being President entailed, or try to understand any of the issues, while he was running. He didn’t bother learning about how anything worked. He was just gonna wave a magic wand, give some orders, and America would be great again.

It was a cargo cult. Instead of Pacific islanders hacking runways in the jungle, thinking that would bring the planes back, we had American voters voting for Trump, thinking he would make everything right again. With about as much meaningful connection between actions and goals in both cases.

And it has succeeded, well, about as well as you’d expect a cargo cult to succeed.

How surprising.

You mean that “fine” executive order, the one that Trump was never even properly briefed on, that gave Steve Bannon a seat of the White House National Security Council and effectively reduced the role of the Director of National Intelligence and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs?

If that’s your standard for “fine,” you should apply for Sean Spicer’s job.

Interesting thoughts from our Eisenhower Republican (that’s how I see you, addie) and one of our Centrists (at least as I see it, JM). While I may dispute (as Ravenman did most effectively earlier in the thread: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19997463&postcount=43) how much he is keeping his promises, the ‘big’ things like the wall, immigration, and regulations are getting enough play that to his supporters he (Trump) appears to be ‘doing what he said he’d do, making things happen.’ Again, we may review and find him wanting, but those who are the backbone of his support aren’t going to be doing the digging and probing, they are seeing “he’s kicking the immigrants out, keeping the Ay-rabs out, and he’s going to build a wall to keep the Mex-i-cans out”, and this is what they voted him in for.

So yeah, be outraged (I am considered going to the scientist’s march in April, and I have never protested any politician in my 64 years), but we’re not touching Trump’s core support…yet.

It’s all in the money folks; if a year or more from now the ‘good’ jobs aren’t increasing in Trumpland, the current Wall street upturn becomes a downward slide, if Congress bollixes the ACA repeal/replace and leaves millions without coverage…well, that will hit those voters where it hurts, and they will turn away from Trump…

…but the important question is, and one I don’t think any side is facing, is where will they go next?

IMHO as always. YMMV.