Isreal was created with good intentions: to give the Jewish people a homeland, so that the holocaust wouldn’t happen again. But the problem was they put that homeland on a place someone else was already living in, and there is been nothing but war ever since. It’s obvious now taht there will never be peace in the middle east so long as Isreal is there. What else can be done?
I thought the soviets had a better idea: they created a Jewish homeland in Siberia, where nobody was living. But all the Jews left there and went to Isreal instead. Wouldn’t it be better for everyone if they just went back? Couldn’t the west offer them incentives to go, like foreign aid? Hell, if the USA just stopped sending them weapons, they’d have to go.
Hitler’s “final solution” was wrong, but it was a real problem: what do you do with an ethnic group that does not fit in but does not have a homeland?
Siberia! Of course! Why don’t they just live there?! There’s also plenty of open space in Antarctica, they could roam free as the wind! Congratulations sir, you have just solved a major diplomatic issue. Your awards shall be arriving presently.
Theres no reason that the can’t be peace in the middle east with Israel. Israel isn’t the cause of the tension in the middle east, just the easiest scape goat.
this. If Israel never existed, we’d still have wars there, but they’d be between different sects of Islam, so no one would notice. Cite: the rest of the Arab world.
Edit: oh, an fanatical Muslims would STILL hate the west.
Isreal was put in Palestine. Their homeland was created by displacing the people who were already there. They’re never going to rest until they get it back. It’s time to end the Isreal experiment: it didn’t work. It’s sad, but true. You can’t help peter by stealing from paul, especially when peter and paul live next to each other and have guns.
I am looking for ideas. What is a better solution to the problem of the Jews?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha no. Israel doesn’t depend on US aid, although it does save lives. But it’s not like Israel is on life support. For it’s size, Israel is almost definetly the strongest country in the world. And with it’s enemies being the many Arab nations, who may be ten times bigger but work together about as well as cats and dogs do, I doubt Israel will lose a war. Suffer loses due to shitty commanders? Sure. But not lose.
The two state solution which has been accepted by the majority of Israelis and palestinians and would be put in place already if the Palestinian leaders weren’t fanatical bastards who happen to be a minority comes to mind.
Nah, that would make too much sense.
The problem is not Jews, it is you, and your kind. We need to find a solution for the religion of hate which infects us. It’s first commandment is to credit yourself with the achievements of others with whom you percieve a resemblance. It’s second is to blame all of your failures on those perceived as most contrasting. It’s third is to murder and torture them in a bloody paroxysm of rage.
I hope that you will not find the DESTRUCTIVE arguments you seek here.
Of all the stupid, harmful and just plain wrong memes prevalent today, it seems as though the one we’ll never get rid of is that Israel was founded by outsiders as a result of the Holocaust. I’d weep, if I didn’t already assume that ignorance was the default state of the vast majority of humanity.
Perhaps. But that title is as about a severe a poisoning of the well as I can imagine. I can’t see anything useful coming out of this thread.
Even if this were true, you can’t unmake an omelet son. Things are what they are - the Israeli Jews are not going to decide to relocate to Kamchatka to suit your skewed notion of what’s expedient.
Maybe if we gave them the whole of the U.S. Pacific Coast - San Francisco has to have better weather than Tel Aviv. But then I might have to learn Hebrew and I hear those Semitic languages are tough. I wasn’t even any good at French.
Just so this thread isn’t a complete waste, an early Pere Ubu song.
Oh, definitely not arguing with you there. But whereas some posters who must not be named show pure, unadulterated hatred towards Israel (and then deny it) this one just screams poor tact and ignorance.
Well, I guess ignorance has been fought. Whether it rears its ugly head again remains to be seen.
That’s what I came here to say. Using the term “final solution” in the context of a discussion of the Israeli/Palestinian problem is ugly and chilling and strongly suggests that he OP is not arguing in good faith.