And how is that logically equivalent to saying that she considers herself to be “God’s chosen leader of the free world”? Frankly, I don’t see the equivalence.
You posted a link, but not her exact words. Tenebras did post her exact words, and they say nothing about God promising to place her in the White House, much less declaring that she is God’s chosen leader of the free world.
Methinks some people are WAY too eager to heap derision based on imagined statements.
What bothers me is any believer who will toss faith and God’s will around that easily as if it’s really very important to them, and then seem to lie just as easily whenever it serves their purpose.
Is that just an accepted compromise between faith and politics?
Why the hell did the foxnews interviewer let her off so easily about the clothes? Why wasn’t she asked about the silk boxers for Todd? If, as she claimed, she had no prior knowledge of the clothes and that they were just “there when she arrived”, how the hell did they know to buy boxers, not briefs? Why wasn’t she asked why underwear was being bought for them in the first place? What, they don’t wear underwear in Alaska? :rolleyes:
And how were $150,000 worth of designer clothes bought for 8 people without the family being asked what size everyone was? And why were clothes bought for the horny little teen boy that knocked her daughter up?
I’d like to see a real interview where she is actually forced to answer.the.fucking.questions. For once.
It is completely and totally unreasonable to expect a national candidate, including her husband if he is travelling with her, to buy her own underwear. When you travel to multiple cities in a single day, when exactly are you supposed to wash the underwear?
Sarah, keep avoiding the question about the clothes. It’s some pointless fluff that the haters care about intensely but in the end no one is really going to care. I wonder how many of the outraged people were outraged by John Edwards $ 400 haircuts. I doubt there is much crossover there.
LMFAO
You think the Palin’s were doing their own laundry?
You do know that hotels have laundry services, right? Or there are fluff & fold laundry services.
Also, there are campaign aides that handle trivial things like this.
I have no use for Palin, but I don’t see it either. Any believer will pray for God’s guidance, and that he will reveal his will. Not exactly the same as Joan of Arc.
:dubious: Um, you mean the Palins’ future son-in-law?
C’mon, I’m no fan of Sarah Palin personally and I think you are right on target in saying that she and the RNC should be held accountable for their actions when it comes to campaign spending. But if it was justifiable to buy clothes for the Palin family, and if the Palins consider the father of their future grandchild and future son-in-law to be a member of their family, then I don’t see why he wouldn’t get a share of the wardrobe purchases.
One of the few things I’ve really admired about the Palin campaign is their unflinching public acceptance of their daughter’s unwed pregnancy and their insistence on treating the marriage and the baby as a source of joy rather than an embarrassment. I hope it’s all 100% genuine and not just a mask for guilt trips, emotional blackmail, and threats of shotguns or lawsuits, as it would be for many parents of pregnant teenage daughters. And if it is genuine, then I think it’s courageous and deserves support and reinforcement, not contempt.
You’re not very good at reading comprehension are you?
Yes. You do understand the notion of time limitations right? That laundry takes a while to take care of?
You clearly do not understand the concept of limited time. How does the campaign aide deliver the laundry when Sarah Palin moves on from St. Louis to Kansas City? Do they drive it over? Do they build an elaborate system of sending her clothes a couple of cities on her itinerary ahead? What if there is a last minute change in the itinerary? Would it be better if she instituted some kind of crazy complex system of getting her clothes to her even if it were more expensive than buying new underwear on the campaign trail?
There is a reason why rock stars on tour almost universally have clean socks and underwear on their tour riders.
If she wasn’t the poster child for attacking people on “pointless fluff that the haters care about” I might feel a little bit of sympathy. But I don’t, because she was.
I hope to hell the IRS watches her like a fucking hawk from now till the day she retires from public life.
-Joe
When exactly is the wedding again? :rolleyes:
Whatever, if you don’t recognize this as prurient recreational outrage on your part then you’re living in a naive little world. If you went through the books of any Presidential campaign, I am sure you could find things that would piss you off. Of course they would only piss you off if it were not your candidate. It’d be interesting to find Barack Obama’s campaign spending and to cherry pick expenses to make it sound ludicrous, and then attribute it to Sarah Palin and see how you react.
Bottom line, we expect our candidates to be mediagenic then get all pissed off when we find out they had a stylist on tour with the, or got expensive haircuts or bought designer clothes. We expect a baseline of fancy dress, which essentially eliminates people under a certain line of wealth from participating. John and Cindy McCain bought expensive stuff for Cindy because they could afford to.
People look at Sarah Palin’s net worth and think they see something significant. I guess they’ve never heard the term, “Land rich/cash poor”.
Why the fuck were all these kids and boyfriends jet-setting all over the country with her anyway? Weren’t they supposed to be in school? 
Do you realize how many times Conservatives have said, “You know Obama is an ambitious politician don’t you?”, as though Obama supporters think he is something else. This is just the reverse of that. The same stupidity, different partisan narrative.
Because the American people expect it.
:rolleyes: Yeah, complying with campaign finance laws is just a piddly little detail that only liberals would bother about. You’re supposed to be skimming off other people’s money for illegal perks for yourself! It’s the Republican way! If you show a real flair for it, we’ll arrange a no-bid contract for you in Iraq rebuilding and set you up with a few suitcases of hundred-dollar bills to lose track of!
This is really hilarious when you compare it to how bent out of shape many Republicans and conservatives got when ACORN staffers submitted some bogus voter registrations. We liberals were agreeing up and down that it was a wrong thing to do, and that anyone found responsible for such actions needed to be fired and/or prosecuted to the full extent of the law—although we still maintained, and with reason, that such misconduct wasn’t an indication of actual voter fraud or a serious threat to the integrity of the electoral process.
But to hear the Republicans talk about it, you’d think that the very security of the nation was under attack. “Somebody’s doing something illegal! It must be stopped!”
And now we have a situation where some liberals and Republicans, such as our esteemed OP Dripping, are merely asking for some reassurance that a Republican national candidate didn’t blatantly violate campaign finance laws. And what are we hearing from the Palin defenders? “This is trivial! Nobody cares! It’s pointless fluff! Keep on stonewalling!”
Flip, flop.
:rolleyes:
I take my laundry to a F&F service. My laundress can do my typical 20# of laundry in less than 3 hours. Laundry isn’t rocket surgery.
I have seen hundreds, if not thousands, of contract riders for rock tours in my 27+ years in the business. Cite please that this item is “almost universally” on tour riders? Or is this more “common knowledge”?
When someone can produce evidence that it’s perfectly normal for a campaign to buy drawls for not only the candidate, but the candidate’s entire family (including a daughter’s boyfriend), then I’ll stop thinking that this whole thing is a ridiculous embarrassment for the RNC.
I mean, you can convince me that Sarah needs some special understuff. VPL isn’t good on a vice-presidential nominee. But Todd and the kids too? Does anyone really care that little Willow has VPL? Didn’t the girls usually wear dresses and skirts anyway? They could have worn moose pelts and no one would have known!
All defensive arguments fall apart when we see that Barack Obama did not charge the DNC for his family’s undergarments.
I think this scandal should be called “Under-Gate”.
Complex? This sort of advance work (including having one or two spares on the campaign jet to handle last-minute changes of plan) is Logistics 101.
The campaign staff told her to buy three suits plus three more for the road. Obviously, that’s all it takes to fill the legitimate needs for looking good on the trail.
Yes it’s common knowledge as alleged in this:
http://www.jambands.com/Columns/AMiller/content_2007_02_24.00.phtml
http://www.onmilwaukee.com/music/articles/contractriders.html
http://www.theblurb.com.au/Issue51/TalesRider.htm
But of course based on your contributions so far I am certain you’ll see a debate over the semiotic value of superlatives in this debate.