So Will The Sky Fall If The UN Declare Palestine a State?

Damuri, do you know what we say when people claim to be seeing or hearing things that don’t actually exist?

That you can claim I’m “uncritically supporting” Israel in the same thread where you just responded to Tom pointing out that I’ve specifically criticized Israel’s settlement policies just proves that your arguments are routinely based on fiction and fantasy, you do not allow facts to modify your beliefs, and you will repeat them over and over. In fact, in trying to shift the topic to your fantasy about me, you deliberately skipped responding to the fact that the very cite you just provided proves you wrong, and you didn’t even attempt to pull statistics to support your position. You’re now trying to change the subject and instead of admitting error, modifying your position or even trying to support it, you’re trying to go on the attack based on a fantasy about my behavior.

In other words, if your argument is that it’s raining, someone should go to the window to make sure.

Or maybe you’re playing semantic games in this thread, again.
You just claimed that we wouldn’t be opposing Palestinian statehood if it wasn’t for AIPAC. I quoted you saying that. Support for an independent Palestinian state has, IIRC, never climbed and stayed above 45ish percent in America in anything but outliers, and I’m pretty sure that was for contextual/negotiated and not unilateral independence. You are claiming that our lack of support for unilateral independence is evidence that AIPAC controls the political climiate and public opinion, then perhaps you should rein in your bombast, bluster, and conspiracy casting, and actually try to do more than claim that since your opinions are not held by a majority of Americans, there must be enemy action going on.

Snarking at me when you’re provably wrong isn’t a good idea. It makes your argument look very silly. Well, sillier. Maybe keep a dictionary on speed dial if you don’t use proper English vocabulary correctly, eh?
You owe the thread a retraction, as you’ve just admitted that your claim that "there are folks here who say that people who don’t support Israel enough are “anti-Semites” is purely fabricated. The best you can say is ‘Well, there’s this gone guy who said something once.’ And, if I’m also not mistaken, even your Big Bad Brazil only said that about people who are strongly anti-Israel, not those who don’t “support Israel enough”. I’d wager that not even Brazil would say that someone who doesn’t give a fuck about I/P and doesn’t have an opinion is an anti-Semite.

But your argument’s currency is fiction and bombast.

As pointed out to you numerous times, you can be bigoted against a nation, and indeed you’ve admitted in the Dope’s public record that your thought process is naturally bigoted against Israel, without also being an anti-Semite. You’ve been told this repeatedly. The fact that you keep alleging you’ve been routinely accused of anti-Semitism, despite the fact that you can’t cite more than one single example in your entire time on the Dope, is just yet more of the persecution fantasy that your argument relies on. That your argument is couched in not just fantasy, but paranoid fantasy suggests that it is a highly improper framework through which to analyze something as complicated as United States politics and foreign policy, especially since your claims rely on nefarious enemy to explain why politicians and voters don’t agree with you.

That is fictional. You said nothing of the sort. You said that whenever you read or hear anything about Israel, your thought process is to automatically try to put it in the worst light possible and you have to work against that bigoted tendency. Then, yep, you claimed that I control your thoughts and you were completely non-responsible for the fact that that’s how you approach the issue. Why you do this sort of thing to yourself when all I have to do is quote you, is beyond me. But okay…

So, there we have it. You claimed that whenever you had “new facts” you didn’t try to figure them out but, “[try] to figure out how the new facts can be incorporated into a narrative against Israel.” That you are, in fact, a “knee-jerk Israel criticizer.” That, in fact, your thought process is so firmly anti-Israel that you need to make a conscious effort to begin to not think the way your mind naturally would. And, just as I said, that you think I’m a magic wizard who controls your mind, and you take no responsibility for your own thoughts. I know it’s comforting to try to blame someone else for how your own mind works, but if you’re curious about why someone might "wonder what it is about Israel that makes Damuri focus on criticizing Israel but no other state. " You admitted it. It’s that your thought process is habitually bigoted against Israel.

That you keep trying to pretend you’ve been called an anti-Semite is an absurdity. One that, evidently, you intend to milk for all it’s worth.

Your standard semantic game playing. This time, it’s a game about how Hamas, a group dedicated to the genocide of the Jewish people in general and the destruction of Israel in specific, is being blockaded not to prevent it from arming and supplying itself, but because of the incidental aspects of the blockade such as chocolate. And you wonder why people might suggest your anti-Israel arguments are hardly to be taken at face value?

As for bombing refugee camps, you’ve again shot yourself in the foot, as the world has displayed over and over that it will heap disproportional attention on Israeli actions against Arabs, but will sit idly by when other nations do the same. How many UN resolutions, boycotts, etc… do you recall when Lebanon was using indiscriminate artillery fire targeting Palestinian refugee camps in 2007? Ya know, when they pretty much bombed the shit out of it for three months? How big is the annual memorial for Hama, Syria, 1982? How big is the annual memorial for Deir Yassin, Mandate Territory, 1948. Want to guess which one had the bigger death toll? Want to guess which one was a methodical, proudly supported and deliberate act of mass-murder?

You also display that you have no actual counter for the fact that of course we support other nations despite having deliberately and permanently ethnically cleansed a massive number of Germans. You are, rather obviously, using your knee-jerk anti-Israel attitude to try to cram facts into your anti-Israel worldview. There’s also the fact that Israel doesn’t just “bomb refugee camps” but without fail, engages in defensive measures against terrorists in those camps. Yet another fact that you just happened to leave out.

And you wonder why people might think that you’ve got something against Israel?
Really?