Some would argue the entire pepper spray discussion is an equally silly molehill.
You posted that third link twice, and I don’t see anything yet to substantiate that the emo girl pic was ever posted to the picture pages maintained by Arnold.
Yeah, I know. I always get “goth” and “emo” mixed up!
You know, I think you’ve got a case! Will you let me represent you in court? Here’s how it’ll go down:
“Your honor, I will show that PlainJain’s fraudulent photorepresentations have enticed my client to frantically masturbate, to completion, multiple times during the course of his interactions with the defendent, which included not only the reading of posts posted on an internet messageboard, but also the exchange of several heartfelt “private messages.” These masturbations would not have occurred had my client been aware of the gross fugliness of the plaintiff’s actual face and boobies, and the oldness of her buttcheeks and her dumb saggy vagine.”
I’ll pause a moment for effect, then continue.
“This deception, this debasement, this … this rape of my client has caused him severe psychosexual trauma, the pernicious effects of which persist even to this day. Why, look to the area where my client is seated. See how the pew trembles? Your honor, he masturbates even now!”
Yeah, you’re right. It should read:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12310342&postcount=435
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12376252&postcount=480
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12394172&postcount=487
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12394241&postcount=488
And you’re right also about the emo photo. Time for me to eat a little crow, as I mistakenly interpreted that post way back then as applying to the SDMB gallery but in looking it over now I see that she posted the emo pic to her Flicker account and tried to pass that pic off as her there.
So, I apologize to everyone including PlainJain for my error. I evidently read the post in haste, and, given the context of mark82’s other posts which concerned the SDMB gallery, I wrongly interpreted that post as applying to the SDMB gallery as well.
It should be noted however that this does not cast PlainJain in any better light, as now we have two different sites and two different photos wherein she tried to pass herself off as someone she wasn’t…which of course is perfectly in keeping with the dishonesty she’s displayed in this thread.
So mea culpa on the mixup, but in truth it’s a distinction without much of a difference.
Good catch, RA.
One of your cites also claims that PlainJain had already e-mailed Arnold once about removing the first picture. The delay that you attribute to her looks to actually have been Arnold’s.
In this post Arnold states that he never received an email from either the original copyright holder or from PlainJain. In light of this, plus PlainJain’s proven dishonesty in so many other regards, I’m not all that inclined to take PlainJain’s word for it that she emailed Arnold immediately to have the posting removed, though it would make sense if she did given that the cat was out of the bag by then.
You’re on a roll. This has me laughing.
You are cracking me up.
For the sake of discussion, how do you feel this situation can be righted in a way that would make you happy, Starving Artist? What would make this whole issue go away and you never, ever bring it up again. You’re presenting this like something you’re losing sleep over, so rather than rehashing the details, let’s look to a resolution.
The resolution has already occurred. I’ve defended my honor as a man of honesty, integrity, and unstalky-ish PMs, and I’ve vanquished a foe who decided to decided to lie about and attack me completely from out of blue and totally unprovoked.
So it’s all good as far as I’m concerned.
Until the next time. 
Let him fuck the emo chick and he’ll let the matter drop.
You came so close to seeing truth, but alas fell short again. I’ll give you this though, I’ll buy that you made made an honest mistake in how you came by what you believed about the second photo. However, you led us to believe you saw it - and not just heard about it second hand from another poster. A little deception there to further your cause, eh?
None the links you provided show any lapse of time between when I knew about the fuck up and taking the pic down. As I stated, I took it down as soon as it was brought to my attention. End of story.
Thirdly, Flickr is an image repository. It is not a message board. There is no community to represent oneself to. Nor did I ever provide a link to that image - to this site or any other. I’ll apologize myself for accusing you of hacking my Flickr account. I see now it was Mark82. Mea culpa as well. But even someone as stubborn as yourself should be able to see that there never was another photo mis-representation..
For whatever reason that this is so very important to you, I’ll leave you now with the last word (cause god damnit, you know you won’t rest without it) and I think with your last set of links it’s pretty clear what’s going on here.
Care that much about what? Whether I think StarvingArtist is right? Trust me, you shouldn’t at all. I’m a guy who measures the greatness of movies based on how much Jumanji drums they have.
This I think is a misunderstanding. I think StarvingArtist recalls the guy in his posted link referring to a photo you had apparently labeled “me in an emo mood” and that’s gotten mixed up in the deep, dark abyss of his scotch-addled mind and now he remembers it as you having uploaded it to Arnold’s gallery.
Edit: Apparently you guys already addressed this. I felt brilliant for a few moments. 
Don’t know who to believe on this one. I’m assuming you’ve deleted the PMs and it’s true that it’d be possible for the caped crusader to only selectively post certain ones.
According to Arnold that isn’t the case.
At the end of the day I think PlainJain probably tried to pretend she was someone else, but like the best of discerning minds I’m fickle and arbitrary, so I still think she’s cool. StarvingArtist is still an insane person, and all is right in the world.
Nope.
“This is Chewbacca. He is a Wookiee from the planet Kashykk. Yet he lives on Endor with Ewoks. Now why would a ten foot tall Wookiee hang out on the planet Endor with three foot Ewoks? It doesn’t make any sense!”
For what it’s worth ACM, I appreciate your response.
First, I wasn’t aware of all of this when it went down - so I’m just going off of what has been said in this thread. I will probably check out the other threads you link to a little later. Second, the scenario presented by PJ - as far as I understand it - is not nonsensical. It’s not highly probable - I’ll grant you - but I have an incident somewhat similar to this that makes the scenario of **PJ **possible.
At the company I work for our email has the ability to attach a photo of ourselves on it. I don’t particularly care about this feature and if it were not for the ‘almost but not quite requirement’ for me to post a picture I would simply ignore the feature (in fact I’ve minimized it so I don’t see anyone’s pictures). In any event, I have a few pictures of myself on my computer and a load of other pictures. I go into the file and pick what I thought was my picture (i mixed it up and instead posted a goofy picture). I didn’t bother to check (as I didn’t care), I was in a rush to get this ‘nonessential’ item done so that I could work on other things. Later that day (maybe an hour?), after I’d sent my boss an email, I get a ‘change your picture immediately’ request. At that point I noticed my error and made sure that I had the proper picture.
Now, since this is a requirement (kind of) of my company and not something I actively sought out and cared about - there are some dis-analogies here. Obviously PJ had some interest in posting her picture (or rather a picture) on Arnold’s website, so it would be a bit odd for her to not follow up and check on it.
I’m a bit unclear on the second ‘goth picture’, but if it was also posted on Arnold’s site by PJ, then I think it’s obvious that PJ was attempting to misrepresent herself.
As to integrity, honesty, and how much this should bother everyone, I think it’s kind of minimal. I don’t really care what you all look like and people trying to pass themselves off as someone else is kind of standard for internet message boards (at least to some degree). In other words, it doesn’t rustle my jimmies all that much. Now if she was pretending to be someone else and garner sympathy and that sort of thing, my jimmies would be rustled more. Maybe I’m just jaded though.
Here’s the thing: mark82 referred to PlainJain’s profile bearing the image of the emo/goth girl. I misread the post and thought by mentioning her “profile” that he was talking about her image in the gallery. So I clicked on the link he provided rather than going to the gallery. My guess was that he was attempting to prove where she’d gotten her photo and as I thought they would be the same photo I saw no reason to go to the gallery to confirm that the photo in the link was the same as the one in the gallery.
Thus I did see the photo.
Now, as to the lone cashew’s busting PlainJain’s chops over the same photo, it’s entirely possible that he either got the same impression from mark82’s post that I did, or that he saw one of my posts that referenced it and took his impression from that.
So I’ll give PlainJain a pass on lying about accusing me of colluding with the lone cashew as it does indeed appear that he and I were the only ones accusing her of posting the emo pic.
But be all that as it may, PlainJain’s account of how she came to post the original photograph doesn’t wash, as again who’s going to go into an account with multiple self portrait files all named the same thing and yank out any old photo and submit it as being them without looking at it first or to see how it appears on the gallery?
So in my opinion she’s lying about that.
It’s also my opinion that she may or may not be lying about having “immediately taken the photo down”. In the first place, she couldn’t have taken it down, Arnold would have had to. But in fairness she may have meant the same thing. However, Arnold stated that he never received her email asking him to take it down. On the other hand he said he didn’t get one from the original photographer either even though mark82 indicated that she’d sent a request that he take the photo down. So hard to say one way or the other about PlainJain’s honesty in that regard, but she most certainly has tried to create the impression that she immediately took personal action which resulted in the photo being removed instantaneously, and that was not the case.
I know that she’s lying about my having sent her “stalky-ish” and “creepy” emails and PMs. There were never any emails, and I can prove the content of the content of the PMs concerned my activity in a “birther” thread which we were at odds on. During the course of those two emails we both admitted to basically liking the other despite our disagreement. She’s now tried to turn that brief comment about my liking her despite our disagreement into “stalky” and “creepy” behavior. So it’s clear that she’ll lie her ass off if she thinks it will give her some advantage or form of defense.
So she’s basically a dishonest person and can’t be trusted. My suggestion going forward is that any claims she makes that might be questionable should only be believed if verified though another source.
FFS perv, you gotta be kidding.:dubious:
Misspoke. Should be “During the course of those two PMs…”
Glad you caught that. Note however that instead of merely conflating the two, PlainJain deliberately stated that there were PMs with additional emails involved also.
Dude. Come on. You realize people are laughing at you, not with you, right?
BTW, how is your cashew buddy doin? LTNS.