Some Proof that a BJU "Education" isn't Worth Much

If you think you’re being funny and original, you clearly have not seen enough internet porn.

I’m a member of my church (obviously) and I have no problem with that.

Hey, I started the thread and I thought that the next time I looked at the forum’s thread list!

Which is kind of my point about their point.

:confused: No it isn’t, Monty.

Just because women are enjoined to keep quiet in church doesn’t mean they are enjoined from preaching and/or evangelizing.

It’s not a question of priority. You can separate faith from secular politics in the same way that you can separate faith from science.

I can’t remember Monty ever indicating that a political candidate’s particular faith (or lack thereof) made any difference to how he evaluated them (unless maybe they’re a nazi or something). He’s not guilty of any hypocrisy here.

Not to mention Oral Roberts…

Well, honestly, the woman in the OP is no more crazy than any other ‘single issue’ voter. There are voters on both sides of the aisle who evaluate their voting choice based on abortion, or gun control, or race relations, or whatever.

Single issue voting is, to me, stupid in the extreme. No candidate is all of a piece.

Wow. Perhaps you should tell some of the fundied out types that little bit. I’ve actually heard them preach that it’s a terrible sin for women to preach.

And, yet again, my point is that whatever “the church” has going on has nothing to do with the government. There’s that whole SOCAS thing we’re supposed to have.

Well, we’re talking about people who don’t accept that, aren’t we?

I repeat: The hostility a large number of American Christian conservatives have to Romney just because he is a Mormon is not going to change. Not by 2008. It will take many more years for them to come around to thinking of religious-conservative Mormons as being on the same side as themselves; look at how long it took for conservative Protestants to ally with conservative Catholics.

No - you can. Doesn’t mean everyone can.

If I believe God is telling me to vote a particular way for a particular reason, do I say, “yassuh, God, you’re Lord of everything,” or do I tell God about SOCAS, and explain to Him that the Constitution of the country I happen to live in has limited His dominion to nongovernmental matters in that country?

It’s not a question of hypocrisy; it’s a question of first principles.

Educate me here, please: doesn’t America’s much-vaunted Constitution guarantee freedom of religion? So why his being a Mormon at all relevant?

Because people can vote for whatever reasons seem good to them.