High school kids are now getting in on the action. Now, this is purely MHO, so feel free to disagree.
Police or other government misconduct is a big problem but it’s far from the biggest problems.
The biggest problem, of course, is that I can’t get a date. Until this is solved all other problems are comparatively inconsequential and can be utterly dismissed.
Awesome. So people want to work on this, but dammit, it just isn’t the biggest thing. Cool. So what are we working on instead?
Maybe something to make sure white people generally can continue to be comfortable in their privilege and obliviousness? I’m pretty sure that would get the octopus seal of approval.
Knock it off. The Pit is where personal shots go.
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…is what is always said when people fight for civil rights causes. If only they weren’t being so damn uppity, and let their cause go back to being background noise, then maybe we’d decide to start listening to them.
Then separately we have the practical issue of every black man between 18-45 (why you picked that age range I don’t know) having to have a camera with them at all times, and recording at all times (after all, if you’re very suddenly apprehended by police, are you going to risk reaching into your pocket for the ON switch?)
Finally, and most importantly we already have footage of police brutality and shootings. People increasingly carry cameras in the form of cellphones (perhaps you’ve heard of them)? The protests are not about spreading the message that such events happen, but trying to make it clear that’s it’s *wrong *that they happen and perhaps the officers involved should not always be cleared of any wrongdoing and there should be improved officer training.
OK, I got this wrong: you included a justification for this age range. Not a good one IMO (it’s somewhat arbitrary to say below this level of risk you shouldn’t care any more about the risk) but it’s there, so I got that part wrong.
I will make a deal with you: I acknowledge that, yes, in a fair number of cases, there are circumstances in which the victims could have behaved differently and perhaps the outcomes might also have been different. But I think even you would agree that there are instances where black people have been killed quite literally for no valid reason at all – Philado Castle comes to mind.
Law enforcement in this country has had a history of imposing a racially unjust order upon black Americans, and yet we’re supposed to just expect black Americans to trust them and the system they are upholding. The law says they must cooperate – we get that. But the fact remains, the law inequitably targets black people for prosecution of crimes, and as such the system discriminates against blacks before they have even been arrested by disproportionately policing black communities in the first place. Blacks are policed more than whites. They are trusted less by the police who enforce the law. They are trusted less by the prosecutors and judges who execute the law. And they are trusted less by the majority of jurors who decide guilt or innocence in a court of law. And this is true regardless of whether they are suspects being tried by the system or victims of white perpetrators.
Per the Washington Post database the police killed an unarmed black man 16 times in 2016. Spending 282 million dollars to prevent 16 deaths a year is nuts.
For that same price you could buy bed nets, or vaccines and save thousands of lives
This makes as much sense as buying every man in America a lightning rod hat, a huge expense to prevent a incredibly small risk.
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Why in the world would blacks wearing body cameras piss off Trump?
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If it is $40 per person, I am sure the big majority of the intended recipients could afford to buy one themselves.
Besides the fact that everything pisses off Trump?
And if virtue signaling is so bad, then why does anyone stand for the anthem? That’s just virtue signaling, too.
No, more like existing, like Philando Castile, Alton Sterling, or Terence Crutcher, just to name a few. You could check for yourself, if you like.
I’m glad you don’t have that experience, but many do.
I did check for myself and found that black people are no more likely to be shot or injured in an arrest.
In realistic simulations police were three times less likely to shoot black suspects.
Police in houston are 24% less likely to shoot black suspects.
A breakdown of NYC police shootings shows that while whites are much less likely to shoot at police they are much more likely to be shot at and much more likely to be hit when fired at.
Other data says 3 times the rate.
That isn’t what your sources say at all. You’re misreading the graph (which to be fair, is a poor choice of visual representation for the data it shows). The graph shows that in NYC whites are much less likely to be shot at or hit.
It says that in NYC whites are 5% of firearms arrestees, 3% of shooting suspects, 0% of people who shot at cops, 12% of people fired on by police, and 20% of people hit by police gunfire.
The disconnect is that they are 35% of the population. However, that not the population sampled. The population being sampled is people being arrested. Since black people in NYC make up 68% of the people to be arrested for firearms they are underrepresented at being shot at with only 50% of the people shot at.
Sure - so long as “a fair number of cases” means “the huge majority of times”, we add 'by not committing crimes" after ‘behaved differently’, and “and there exists very little evidence for racism besides a general accusation that it must have been for that” at the end.
Then go on to add 'and when police are charged with crimes, it has to be done under the same standard of evidence, includes the presumption of innocence, defendant has the right to counsel, and whatever changes are suggested to the process will apply to everyone, not just police."
Then include no money down, free financing for the first year, and staple on a beak of your own choice.
Regards,
Shodan
PS - beautiful plumage!
Well firstly, if the number of cases of wrongdoing is small, and those cases where the video evidence seems damning are not the tip of the iceberg, then that’s good. Let’s do our utmost to get the number down to zero.
For the second point about race, for me personally I don’t care so much if it’s a race issue; if cops are trigger-happy sometimes, or sadistic, and innocent people are getting hurt or killed then that’s a problem to be addressed regardless.
But I’m glad that race is being discussed as we have a government now, and right wing media, that is as brazenly racist as it’s been for at least a generation.