My main gripe is that the wheelchairs used by the escorts or whatever they are called are no way as comfy as mine, which has to be checked as luggage and I did have to put up with a slightly damaged wheel on a trip a few years back to Germany [though the check for the repair arrived at the house before we got home.] I should get a custom wheelchair bag made that is a rigid case … sigh
I saw some couple with a SINGLE kid with a honking huge freaking stroller - I swear it was the size of a VW! She had a black vinyl case for the damned thing that you could probably fit all of the luggage that mrAru and I combined had for the trip including my purse and both our carry ons!
Though I will admit, I can pack a fair amount in the tactical backpack we have for me and it straps onto the back of the chair so it makes it easier on mrAru not having to haul around my luggage as well as his. Sherpaing around 2 full size wheelie suitcases is a pain in the ass. Though we went to a thrift store and bought some seriously ugly ‘60s funky’ belts to strap on the generic bags to help ID them. mrAru used pop rivets to secure them to the bag so they don’t get lost if the TSA decided to open them.
I understand that, and I was also clear that I know that it doesn’t cause medical hyperactivity. My initial post on the subject was to respond to the poster who didn’t say “give them a few pieces of candy” but “pump them full of sugar and pop”. And as I said in my first post on this, if I have too much candy, it certainly gives me a sugar rush and I’m not a kid, I’m thousands of miles away from my kid years. It’s not a stretch to see where kids, who can on their own have way too much energy, would get that sugar high and start (as I’ve seen) acting really ridiculous and goofy.
I also understand that the sugar high kids I’ve been subjected to are merely anecdotal and don’t constitute evidence. But the inverse that people keep saying “sugar doesn’t affect kids if the parent merely remains calm” is pretty silly.
Sugar is fun! When kids get to stop for donuts, when the Fun Dad (who, moi?) buys yard-long Twizzlers at the movies, when we sneak out before mom wakes up and end up getting Belgian Waffles with boysenberries and two feet of whipped cream on top… it’s fun!
So yeah, when I get home with the kids, they’re going to be all keyed up. Might be sugar, might be video games and pizza, might be our 80s singalong in the car… might be a dad that forgot to grow up. So, yeah, I have to conciously tone it down in airports so they’ll be mellow on the plane.
The most dickish thing I’ve ever done on a flight has to do with this. I was on a flight in China and when we landed two women in the back of the plane decided to push their way through the crowed aisle towards the front before the door was even opened. They pushed by me and and got about half way to the front when it was announce we would be exiting from the rear door.
Then they started working their way back. When they got to me, I was blocking the aisle. They actually starting poking me in the back to get out of their way (no “excuse me” or any explanation why they needed to be first off). Without looking back, I threw my knapsack that I was holding over my shoulder. I’m pretty sure one of them got it in the face. Oops. Saw them by the gate later staring at me with burning eyes and putting a hex on me–might explain why I haven’t won Mega Millions yet.
Not sure if this has been mentioned, and I may have missed it, but when you’re going through the security move your belongings forward as space opens up. I’ve seen people standing by the bins and taking off their shoes and emptying their pockets with 20 feet of open table in front of them and a line out the ass behind them.
Jesus H. Christ on a pogo stick, you’re dumber than a box of rocks aren’t you. I’ll type this really slowly so maybe you understand: the sugar high is a myth. Got that? Not true. False. Doesn’t exist. Study after study has found -zero- discernible difference in behaviour based on sugar ingested.
Why didn’t you just ask the flight attendant to ask them to move their seat? On more than one occasion, I’ve had the FA bring a meal while the person in front of me was reclined in my crotch. I’ve never even had to say anything-- I just shrug at the FA and point down to the person laying on me. Every single time, the FA has politely told the person in front of me, “I’m sorry, but you need to have your seat in upright position during meal times. I’ll let you know when it’s good to recline again.”
I mean, I guess it’s better to be a passive aggressive baby and clip fingernails at them (WHO CLIPS THEIR FUCKING FINGERNAILS ON A PLANE? JESUS CHRIST).
Seriously. I fly a lot and am generally anti recline (at least anti full recline), but just ask the flight attendants, that’s what they are there for.
If you’ve never flown before and dont know if you get airsick, please do not test it by cramming your face full of pizza, onion rings, beer, martinis, etc, etc, stinky greasy food. What goes down might come up.
I realize that, another poster had brought up and stated that (paraphrased) - the reason kids get all hyper when given candy is due to how the parents act, if parents get them all stirred up when they’re given candy, that’s when they’ll get hyper-. (again, that was paraphrased).
It didn’t, I thought it was funny, which is why I continued it, then added a smilie to my “pronoun shortage” question.
Oh. No, I need something I can grip if it happens the plane does something bumpy. I have poor balance and little strength in my legs. Tho I suppose I could balance with the bins and then if something happens I’d still have time to drop my hands to grab the seat. I’ll try to remember to do that next time I fly.
OK. I fly fairly often and your COMMON PRACTICE hasn’t always shown up when I have informed my seatmates I wish to exit. And even if they do hop up, as I have said, there isn’t always enough room between seats to get thru without holding on to something for balance. Since it is oh so horrible to you when someone touches your seat, I will attempt to remember to lean over and use vacated chairs, should my seatmates decide to do so.
I fully expect to see a complaint about how stupid this looks later on. :rolleyes:
Actually, no. I spend my time reading or sleeping, not staring at bathroom bound passengers.
Why yes. I’m a complete idiot. In all ways. I have no intelligence or abilities whatsoever. :rolleyes:
I’ve seen several of these reports, I disagree with their findings and don’t think they’re that thorough either. The ones I’ve read, or have seen on TLC or Discovery and that ilk show experiments such as, they basically take Xnumber of kids, let them run around, give them a little candy, then base their activity levels on that. The ones I have seen did NOT separate or observe behavoiur, merely things like (to simplify) “are these kids running around more, or faster, or jumping up and down more before or after the candy”?
I’m quite sure you’re correct that it doesn’t cause hyperactivity. As I’ve said about 7 times now. From what I’ve observed in the field (in particular one very unpleasant trip on a greyhound bus, never do THAT again), I have seen it have a definite effect on children’s behaviour even when their parents were being calm vs. not calm (Sorry, I don’t remember which poster said that was the real reason kids acted up when Halloween and Easter overdoses occurred).
I am a full grown, old adult, and I can absolutely feel the effects of too much sugar, so why would kids be completely immune to it with no differences whatsoever?
Ignoring the question of meal time (and mostly that’s been solved by eliminating meal time on domestic flights), the eternal debate over whether a passenger is perfectly entitled to recline their seat or if doing such is an affront to human decency is once the universe will not live long enough to see resolved.
As you say your own self, “even if they do hop up, there isn’t always room between seats…” So why would it be okay to climb over people? You said it yourself…If there’s barely enough room when people aren’t in their seats in your row, there really REALLY isn’t room when people are there. Good Grief!
If you’ll read the thread, what you’ll see is there were complaints, but about being climbed over. NOT that not wanting to be climbed over is stupid.
When people in your row get up…Sheesh really? What I meant was, (and this wasn’t that complex). Don’t you observe what goes on around you (as in close around you)? As in, when people around you are engaging in similar behaviours?? If you’ve flown, and someone wants out from your row, chances are they asked you to get up so they could get out, most people aren’t going to climb all over someone else. Do you not observe things like THAT? And realize “oh, most people do it that way, I see”?
I have no dog in that fight. I’ve been lucky enough to have never been on a plane where the seats reclined into the face of the person behind, or reclined on the bottom half into the knees of the person behind, or really reclined much more than an inch or two. I’m guessing those are mostly international flights in 747s? (I haven’t been in one of those as a passenger since I was a kid).
I probably make my seatmates pretty happy, as soon as we’re allowed to, and all the settling in, drink and snack distribution and such has occurred, I go stand in the back of the plane. I can’t sit in those seats for very long without pain, so this leaves more stretching out room for people in my row. Whenever possible, I get an aisle seat, so they’re truly free once I get up and move to the back. Plus the flight attendants always have some really cool stories.
And regardless of what the FAA/FCC and other government agencies may decide, you will not be allowed to use your cell phones for voice communications if you fly Delta or JetBlue. I bet Spirit Airlines will allow it and then charge you 50 gazillion dollars a minute for the privilege aboard their aircraft.
You don’t believe the studies? Seriously? Let me guess - climate change is a myth, and vaccines cause autism, right? :rolleyes:
There are many, many studies. Real, scientific studies even! Double-blinded and everything. Seriously.
Huh? You just said above you don’t believe the studies. Which is it?
No you can’t. You may think you can, but you can’t. Far more likely, the kids on that Greyhound bus were reacting to the fact that they were bored to death because THEY WERE STUCK ON A FUCKING GREYHOUND BUS.
I notice you use two spaces after a period - so my armchair diagnosis is you’re one of those older folk that don’t really believe all this newfangled so-called ‘science’, right?
When I was a kid all you had to do was give me a window seat, the outside view was more than enough to keep me occupied no matter how long the flight. Of course, the next person might have to look through smeary nose and fingerprints, but whatever…
Wow, you’re getting very overwrought and angry. What does that have to do with sugar?
Hyperactivity is a medical term. And within most of the studies that’s what they’re talking about when they use that term. So no, I don’t believe that sugar causes hyperactivity. There’s a difference between sugar causing kids to have behaviourial changes and them having actual hyperactivity. That’s what I’ve been saying since my first post.
As a matter of fact, at the time I was writing this post, I had had a piece of birthday cake at work (with far too much frosting on it, I had to scrape half of it off). Anyway, I could have cheerfully run down the road and back had I not been at work, and wearing heels. And I’m the laziest human on earth, prior to the cake, I could have easily taken a nap. Anyway, you believe that a person can’t feel sugar hit their bloodstream (or conversely feel low blood sugar) at all? Wow.
Other kids (of similar ages) on the bus weren’t reaching that level of spazzing out. Including their sister, who sat with her nose buried in a book. Her family was so awful, I think she was actually embarrassed to be with them and hoped no one would see her, I never actually saw her eat anything, candy or otherwise.
Oh brother. What does this have to do with sugar? Or is it about taking out whatever bug is up your butt on someone who’s posted something you disagree with? First it was climate change (yes, yes our climate is changing), then it’s shots (both my kids had every single one, on time, when it was due). Now it’s my typing, I know this is the pit, but you’re getting really out of sorts over a debate and going all over the place to attack and be mad, rather than merely discuss the subject at hand. FWIW, I use two spaces after a sentence because I do technical writing (in the Environmental Industry) for a living and that’s the industry standard, so it’s habit. And because it’s easier on the eyes. And how would you know how many spaces I use anyway? The board automatically closes it to one space. Not that I care, it just seems a little over the top that you are so worked up about this that you went to whatever measures one goes to to see how many spaces a poster uses.
I’m merely a parent and grandparent who’s observed kids go from normal to spazz two minutes after ingesting too much sugar, not a medical researcher. But apparently I’m not imagining that kids DO react to too much sugar, and that it does affect some people differently than others. And that is what I’ve been saying all along, too much sugar, not a candy bar, not a couple of pieces of candy, too much. And that’s the point the first poster was making as well.
At any rate, here’s just one piece from the other side of the debate and from people that know far more than I do medically.
Note what I quoted says the same thing You said and the same thing I’ve said. I believe that it doesn’t cause hyperactivity. That’s a medical term. People have come to use it as slang to mean whenever anyone gets over energized or spazzy or whatever, but in the studies you’re talking about, THEY are talking about the actual official term. I am not, and have not from my first post.
I’ve been talking about the behaviour that is caused when kids ingest too much sugar (second paragraph).
Pediatric Parents’ site.
And so on. And of course there are online sources that say “no way, no how sugar has NO effect on anyone, PERIOD”. Which really is idiotic, of course sugar has an affect on us, everything we ingest has SOME affect on us.
It might be tradition, it might be habit…but it’s not ‘industry standard’. Unless technical writers all only work on typewriters, never ever publish anything (or simply decide to ignore every publisher guidelines & style guides (CMOS etc) in the world).
And you’re still wrong about the sugar high, btw. Continue to believe ‘what you know to be true, science be damned’.
and I did have to put up with a slightly damaged wheel on a trip a few years back to Germany [though the check for the repair arrived at the house before we got home.] I should get a custom wheelchair bag made that is a rigid case … sigh
