Well, to be perfectly honest, if I really thought that a coffee enema every day for 20 days would allow me to lose 20 lbs and keep it off I would sign up for that program. Fortunately my brain allows me to see the fallacy of this plan so I do not shoot coffee up my bum.
I am working really hard at losing weight right now, and so far I have lost 40 lbs since June 1st of last year. The thing of it is that at my size and with the slow, healthy weight loss no one except me has noticed at all. My pants fit better and I don’t have as much trouble going up and down the stairs but for the most part I still look the same. Luckily, I think I am smokin’ hot even when I am fat but not one coworker or aquaintance has said, “Hey, have you lost weight?” and some people really need that recognition and praise to be able to keep going. I am losing the weight for my health so I don’t care if anyone ever notices really but if I were doing it for cosmetic reasons and I had lost 40 lbs and no one noticed I would absolutely quit right then and there and go fry some chicken and smother it in gravy. She probably feels fine (or as fine as she has ever felt…if this is a long term weight issue for her she probably feels the same way she always has) and for her weight loss is probably entirely cosmetic. She wants people to notice the same way they would notice if she got her hair cut, especially if she is putting in a lot of effort, or what she views as a lot of effort, towards reducing her size. When she doesn’t get that instant recognition for the effort she puts forth she feels like it isn’t worth it, and I understand that. She hasn’t hit rock bottom yet and until she does she won’t see that it is worth the effort for her and her alone, no matter what anyone else says.
Count me in as someone who’s never able to finish anything in restaurants. They are so big!
Also, what is a “normal” amount of sit ups for someone who is in shape? (Or maybe I should say crunches, lacking someone to hold down my feet.) These days, I usually run/walk two or three miles on the treadmill and do a mile or two on the elliptical, which I enjoy, but I just hate doing crunches. I’m not sure why. I did about forty or fifty to see how many I could do in a minute. I guess I’m never sure how many I “should” be doing either.
I have been reading that thread, and made a few posts. About 30 years ago I went from 240+ to 186 in less than a year that way, so I know it’s possible.
Of course, there should be a major WTF? moment the first time you hear about WLS. It’s extremely drastic. I mean, let’s face it – I let a guy remove part of my (perfectly healthy) intestines, displace 2/3 of my (again, perfectly healthy if you don’t count the polyps from years and years of taking GERD meds) stomach and basically completely re-route my digestive system. That’s some serious shit right there. For me, and for many like me, the 1/2% chance of death due to surgical complications was way better than the 100% chance of death from obesity complications. I don’t disagree for one second that it is a truly fucked up situation that a person would consider WLS as a means of weight loss.
For the record, even WLS is not a magic wand. Sadly, I have watched too many people fail who thought it was. There was a woman with whom I used to communicate on a WLS website who had to have a “revision” of her WLS. She was always talking about eating cakes, cookies, ice cream, macaroni and cheese and all the same foods that she ate pre-op and couldn’t understand why she’d only lost 30 lbs in 4 years as compared to my 200+lbs in 12 months. The fact that I worked out religiously and watched what I ate never struck her as a factor – it must be that her surgery was somehow deficient.
Ok, off my WLS rant and back to my OP.
Freudian Slit – obviously that’s up to you. I wasn’t talking about there being a normal amount to do, so much as it being an issue of her just doing something. You know what I mean? Any exercise is more than she does now. Literally, she sits at her desk for 8 hours/day eating, save for the 45 minute lunch where she goes out to buy fast food to eat. On the weekends, she spends her time drinking, smoking and watching television.
Are we talking brewed or grounds? I think my hemmorhoid might protest after day two either way.
You know, a friend of mine once wrote the most truthful thing to me when I was having a really tough time dealing with my weight issues. We were talking about a very strict low-calorie diet that had been proffered by a YMCA trainer (not a nutrionist) during a very humiliating fitness testing session for me. (Long story, but a comedy of errors, not all the trainer’s fault.) My friend wrote:
It was so true for me that I cried. I’m not saying that I can’t restrict my food intake, I’m saying that it takes a Herculean effort of will and emotion to do so on my part.
I know this is the case for a lot of people. Do I doubt that Sam has emotional eating issues? Not one iota. Have I suggested that she seek counseling for them? Absolutely. Want to know why she hasn’t? She “doesn’t see spending the money” on it. A bottle of Alli, unused, left to rot, not even given away to someone who might actually use it = $60. Dexatrim pills, tossed in the garbage = $15. Detox diet shit program = $60 (WAG). Lipo-Dissolve (her newest “magic wand” on which she wants an opinion) = over $2000. All of these things, she is willing to spend money on, but not a $20 copay once a month for counseling. This is not a person who is serious about her weight loss. This is someone who wants a magic wand/pill. It makes my heart ache to see heavy people trying to lose weight, because I know what it’s like. I might not know what the emotional eating is like, but I know that when you’re over 200 lbs overweight, it takes a herculean effort to move across the room, let alone do it while cutting down on your calories.
What I just don’t get, though, is how she can actually be as smart as she is and yet so flipping stupid!
Really? Only 35? For some reason I figured it would be higher than that. Or, are the BMI calculators online not accurate? According to those, my BMI was 35.7 the last time I weighed myself (about 4 months ago). I was about 40-50 pounds overweight at the time. I have GOT to be missing something. I can’t imagine anyone have massive surgery for 40-50 pounds. Hell, even when I weighed 210 I would never have considered any kind of surgery.
Litoris, any chance of you posting your Alfredo sauce recipe? I love alfredo but the stuff in the jars tastes more like cream than like alfredo and every recipe I’ve tried tastes terrible. Of course, it could just be me.
I could have typed the exact same thing. If I could see any remotely plausible way that having coffee squirted where no coffee should ever go might allow me to lose weight (even semi-permanently), I’d be running to Safeway for Folgers & an enema bag.
I’ve bounced up and down the same 15 pounds for years (which wouldn’t be that bad, but even at the low point, I’m still 15 more pounds overweight). The words “it’s a new lifestyle” fill me with dread - because the things that people say help you succeed (the constant planning, list making, and obsessive type A behaviors) are not normal for me. And I internally rebel against them. (I don’t mind exercising. I deeply mind planning and scheduling time for my exercise to the detail that seems to be necessary from the diet gurus (even the ones that I out exercise). Same with food and food lists and shopping lists and diarying every morsel that goes into my mouth in advance.) the thought of having to do that for the rest of my life makes me want to eat something covered in cheese.
So, yeah. 20 days? Weight is gone? I’d do that.
Luckily, I can’t see any connection between caffeine suppository and weight loss.
Are you sure that she read that part of the website? Does she know about the coffee enema part? I often have people ask me to read things and claim that I have to read it very carefully when they haven’t read it well or sometimes haven’t read it at all.
It seems like she would object to that part if she didn’t like what the pills did. . . same general area involved.
If she absolutely knew about the coffee enema, then ya got me. I don’t get it either.
My guess is that she’s scared to fucking death of what’s causing those emotional eating issues and doesn’t want to face them. She just wants to lose weight easily, like a “normal” person, and she isn’t ready to admit she isn’t normal.
You talk about going to counseling like it’s just as easy as popping a Dexatrim. Maybe she isn’t ready to face the fact that she was molested as a kid, or that her mother didn’t love her, or that her father mercilessly ridiculed her every day of her childhood. That shit takes years to deal with, and chances are you’re still fat at the end of it.
I think my hemmorhoid might protest after day two either way.
for being beaten at quoting at Rob.