Sometimes I really hate my race. (chimpout.com)

Look, sorry to be contrarian, but nothing triggers my disdain like seeing ridiculous statements like ‘I hate my race’ as a hading for an anti-racism polemic.
Do you not see the self-contradictory nature of this? And like conditioned lab rats, you follow the response pattern with absolute predictability.
Racism is a natural result of the all-too-human propensity for facile categorization. This is a natural proclivity, and ca.not be eliminated by condemnation or social engineering. You cannot tell people to doubt their own inductive experiential conceptualization.
You can, however, didact the process so as to allow self-awareness of cognitive process.
Only when this is acheived can the individual progress to a meta-observational percept model.
But to do this you must forego the judgement such commentary elicited in this forum displays.

What is UP with the zombies lately?

That having been said, the blatant racism/homophobia on the Craigslist “Rants and Raves”: what on earth? I guess I’m ignorant but I had no idea in this day and age! It astounded me. I am living and walking among these [del]people[/del] cretins!

Never mind. Not worth it.

It’s time for a paradigm shift in the externalization of our grumbles about racists.

A poster that joins just for a single post to offer a weak justification for racism and uses what can be (in some contexts) a controversial username?

Nah, I’m not seeing completely shitheaded behavior here at all. Just good ole fashioned self-justification for garden variety racism and assholery.

Something Awful did a much better article about it.

How’s Templar a controversial user name? Unless Phillip IV is on the boards.

I had to deal with anti-Muslim xenophobia all day yesterday. And it makes me sick, too. You really think Muslims are making Detroit a shithole? Detroit was a shithole even when it was all-white, lady. Now shut the fuck up with your dire dystopian predictions about whites becoming a minority in “our own country.” This country doesn’t “belong” to whites like you or me any more or less than it belongs to non-white people.

But even if I agreed with you that there is a “Muslim problem,” which I don’t, the solution would *not *be to treat reproduction like a fucking contest. I don’t owe it to you or to America to have multitudes of white babies to cancel out their brown ones, you xenophobic bitch. That’s fucking eugenics, and we don’t fucking practice it for some very good ethical fucking reasons.

The worst part is, I’m *related to *assholes like this. :rolleyes: Maybe if I decide to have a kid someday, I’ll deliberately pick Muslim sperm just to piss you off.

(I didn’t notice this was a zombie until after I posted it. fuckit, I’m leaving it up)

Firstly, I think the key here is to raise babies with Western values, their actual skin colour is probably irrelavant to her - check if she would accept a Chrisitan Latino who was well-spoken and shared American values.

Secondly, I don’t think that is really eugenics - you aren’t removing the ‘negative’ genes from the human breeding pool, you are merely counterbalancing those genes by encouraging ‘positive’ genes.

That’s right, “check” and see just how racist the bitch really is! She might surprise you! We all know how much these types LOVE Hispanic babies!

Are you always this dumb, Laudenum, or did you eat some bad ham over Christmas or something?

The most ironic part of it all is that the bitch in question is Wiccan and polyamorous. Not exactly the embodiment of American ideals. :rolleyes::rolleyes: But she’s white and they’re brown, so the religion doesn’t matter.:rolleyes:

Also, Galton defined eugenics as “the study of all agencies under human control which can improve or impair the racial quality of future generations”. That’s my operating definition.

Note that I qualified it with “in some contexts”.

There are some modern organizations with no real connection with the historical Knights Templar who are some nasty pieces of work. Of course, there are also modern organizations that use Templar iconography and do good works (the Freemasons come to mind).

For example, that crazy Norwegian guy (Brevik?) who shot up all those people at the summer camp claimed to be part of a modern Templar movement that was deeply racist and anti-Muslim.

I’m guessing that if somebody is coming to make a single post to defend racism, it’s more likely they’re with the crazies.

What are “western values”?

Being nice plainfolk, silly.

I wish people would just go ahead and say “white people who I wanna be friends with!” instead of saying “Western” like it means anything. Westerners are a people who speak languages that derive from a language group that was born in the East, worship religions that arose in the East, and who are scattered all over the world. Huge parts of their diets–like rice, tomatoes, potatoes, pumpkins, and corn–have non-Western origins. They consider ancient Greece the Beginning of it All. But this has always puzzled me since Greece is not “Western”–either geographically or culturally.

“West” and “East” are divisive, meaningless terms. They need to go by the wayside, IMHO.

My brother in law is a fire fighter, at the site of a fatal apartment fire he was injured badly while trying to guide residents onto a ladder and they in panic jumped and he was hit by two of them from five stories up. He had to be hospitalized and while there was interviewed by a reporter, which lead to a newspaper story and they posted the story on their website.

The comments quickly filled up with political bickering, race bickering, pot shots at him, passive aggressive bullshit.

I’ve come to the realization that most people can’t help themselves, given a anonymous place to speak their mind they are gonna spew garbage. Just a fact of life, it doesn’t really say anything about their real life demeanor.

Psst… don’t look now, but African-Americans are “Western” too!

Sorry, we don’t count West Africa 'round these parts.

Yup, except nobody means AA people when using the term. They really do mean “white people who we like.”

For anyone thinks that “Western” is meaningful, what does “Eastern” connote to you? China? Japan? The Middle East? Nigeria? Indonesia? India? Russia? What do these places share in common? Does it makes any sense to lump a Japanese fellow with a Saudi Arabian? Or a Congolese with an Armenian?

They don’t worship the same religions or speak the same tongues or dress the same way or relate to people in the same way.

So what rubric are we using when we distinguish them from “us”?

Tip yore hat when you pass a lady on the street.

Quit playin’ the piano when the mysterious stranger steps into the saloon.

Keep yore git-tar tuned for after the gunfight.

You see a campfire 'round these parts? No? Then put the harmonica away.