I’m more familiar with a different response to “Okie”, “Asshole from El Paso.”
While replying to the “Worst opening line of song lyrics” thread and complaining about the nonsense lyrics in Neil Sedaka songs, I remembered that Who Put the Bomp (in the Bomp, Bomp, Bomp) makes fun of such songs.
Dylan to Lennon (reportedly) in the former’s “4th Time Around”:
“I never asked for your crutch / Now don’t ask for mine.”
Sorry, nothing comes to mind to add to the thread. But I have to comment on a 14 year old girl named Lolita. Good she changed her public name.
Mojo Nixon!!! “Elvis needs boats. Elvis needs boats.”
The classic example, of course, is Sir Walter Raleigh’s “The Nymph’s Reply to the Shepherd”, in response to Christopher Marlowe’s “The Passionate Shepherd to his Love”.
You remember that “Istanbul (Not Constantinople)” song?
Well, guess what …
It’s not meant as a dis. The parents are listening to the KID’S COPY of Kiss, meaning that the kid just discovered that his parents are actually cool. The kid is discovering things that he didn’t know about his parents, like that his parents aren’t as square and boring as he thought they were.
Exactly.
How about Ozzy Osbourne “Gets Me Through” form the “Down to Earth” recording, towards the song “Iron Man?” He had already more or less “rejoined” four years earlier. Just a thought.
I’m not the kind of person you think I am
I’m not the antichrist or the iron man
If I’m not mistaken, Frank Zappa’s “Joe’s Garage” (masterpiece that it is) is his take on Pink Floyd’s “The Wall” (another masterpiece). Zappa was underrated, but I consider him a musical genius and perfectionist, although eccentric as hell. Check it out and let me know if you agree!
I don’t see how that is possible, since Joe’s Garage was released in September and November 1979 and The Wall was released in November 1979. I owned them both in both vinyl and CD, and really like them both, but I can’t see how either can be a response to the other.
It’s a cover. In what way are TMBG dissing any previous versions?
Did you check the link?
That is probably correct - I owned them both too and knew that they were pretty close together in time. Maybe Frankie had some inside info - wasn’t “The Wall” conceived and written over a number of years? You have to admit there is a common theme between the two, from a “normal” kid, to being institutionalized, to going free.
Thanks for your knowledgeable response!
Well, “Dear John” was widely perceived as a poke at Swift’s ex John Mayer.
And his “Paper Doll” was a poke back.
Joy Division’s “Love Will Tear Us Apart” sure SOUNDS like a slap at the goofy old single “Love Will Keep Us Together” by the Captain and Tennille.
I’m glad you came back and brought up the overall themes of both album sets. I think both were mostly written and created in 1978 and 1979 (according to Wikipedia). And both are at least partially related to being musicians. It seems to me that The Wall is much more introspective and emotional, whereas Joe’s Garage is an external-focused anti-government, anti-censorship, anti-hypocrisy tale. Zappa lived and worked in Los Angeles and Pink Floyd lived and worked in England, and both projects were written and recorded at the same time. I somehow can’t see Zappa and Roger Waters getting together for chats, but I guess it might have happened.
I don’t know that it was intended as a diss. Since it was written on the 500th anniversary of the fall of Constantinople to the Ottomans, I thought that might have more to do with it’s creation.
Plus Kinky Friedman’s “Asshole From El Paso”.
Spike Jones and the City Slickers delighted in taking the piss out of pretty much everyone out there. One example of their going a wee bit too far was in their mockery of fellow RCA recording artist Vaughn Monroe:
When Johnny comes marching home again
Hooray Hooray
He’ll make the fellow who wrote this song
Pay and pay
'Cause all we hear is “Ghost Riders” sung by Vaughn Monroe…
I don’t care much for his singing
But I wish I had his dough!
An outraged Monroe, a major RCA stockholder, insisted that the last two lines be removed from later pressings. The original can be heard at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9mT-ibaAQo .