Soviet 'Space Shuttle' Buran -- What's Your Take?

Just to probe the depths (I noticed some russophiles and space-type-people here)…

1-Do you know what I’m talking about?

2-Is/was Buran a rip-off of the US Shuttle?

3-(Any comments, feelings, thoughts, questions, pictures, you would like to send our way, or you would like to hear)

So…

1-Big fargin’ yes.

2-Most likely, although there are some unusual features I can go into, if need be.

3-I first heard about Buran not quite a year ago. I was instantly hooked. The thought that the USSR had a space shuttle like we did…What’d they do with it? What happened to it? Why hadn’t I heard about it before? I went on a quest to learn more about it, and piled up pics on my hard drive and books on my desk. I now consider Buran to be one of the best, most recent 'coulda, shoulda, woulda been’s.

Any other thoughts?
-SSB

1 yes

2 Hell yes

3 Heard that it was now parked in a park in Russia. It just sits there like our unused Saturn V moon rockets do at Kennedy and JSC.

Pretty damned expensive landscaping if you ask me. :stuck_out_tongue:

I’ve heard of a mock-up parked in Gorky Park being turned into some kind of themed attraction.

Give me some time to find a pic of the poster.
-SSB

My understanding is that the Buran (trans. “Snowstorm”) went up once or maybe twice, unmanned, for testing, and then shortly thereafter the program got scrapped. Yeah, it looked like a blatant rip-off of the space shuttle… one big difference was that it was strapped to one of their Energia rockets, instead of a hydrogen fuel tank and a pair of solid-rocket boosters.

http://thematrix.acmecity.com/realworld/214/BTIGP.jpg
-SSB

info and pictures:
http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/rsa/buran.html

“Buran” = Snowstorm, Whirlwind, or Blizzard, depending on who you believe.

It only flew once. And that one flight was unmanned. It flew by remote control and landed on autopilot, something our shuttle cannot do.

Also, our orbiters use their main engines for launching. Buran has no launch-type engines; thus, all of the Energia rocket is booster (not ‘some boosters + a fuel tank’, like ours).

My understanding is that the Buran (trans. “Snowstorm”) went up once or maybe twice, unmanned, for testing, and then shortly thereafter the program got scrapped. Yeah, it looked like a blatant rip-off of the space shuttle… one big difference was that it was strapped to one of their Energia rockets, instead of a hydrogen fuel tank and a pair of solid-rocket boosters.

The program ran out of money.
However, I read that Buran has fuel to abort a landing and try again, unlike the US shuttle.

That’s a good site, Drewbert, with some good pictures.
-SSB

If you like that, try DeepCold. It’s a site with recreations of proposed Cold War designs for American and Russian spacecraft.

I have no idea how that got posted twice…

I have no idea how that got posted twice…

OK. apparently I need to stop using the “Back” button right after posting.

*Shouldn’t this go in the “Post Padding Party” thread?

Deep Cold is very good.

Thanks.
-SSB

1: Yes

2: Depends on what you mean by “rip-off”. The launch configuration is very different - the Soviet system used expendable engines mounted on the main booster, while the U.S. system uses reusable engines on the orbiter. They did copy the aerodynamic design of the orbiter. NASA already cosnidered and tested numerous designs before coming up with an optimal design; there was no point in duplicating the effort.

3: By far the best on-line source of info on the Buran is at http://www.friends-partners.org/~mwade/craft/buran.htm .

The Buran/Energia system was interesting because the Buran was just a capsule riding on this huge booster. The Energia booster coud also be fitted with a simple payload canister instead of the Buran orbiter, allowing up to 200 tons of payload, if I recall correctly. The Space Station could have looked very different if this was in operation.