Franco fast-talked some Spanish prelates into extending to him honors that would not otherwise be proferred to a layperson.
Some over-enthusiastic Spanish prelates decided that Franco’s “defense” of the church entitled him to special considerations without even any prompting by Franco.
Some over-enthusiastic (or pressured) Spanish prelates took Franco’s “defense” of the church to Rome where Pius XII or someone in the Vatican office of protocol agreed to extend some honors not normally extended to laypersons.
I have heard various rumors about Franco and the church for years without paying a lot of specific attention to the details. You have not posted anything that I find improbable and I only wandered into the thread to discuss the pallium at your request. I’m glad that Franco is gone and I hope that the actions of Juan Carlos upon his coronation have kept Franco spinning madly in his grave for the last 31+ years.
Tom, quick response here for race-coverage’s started. I have only thanks to give for getting you involved in this thread. And I do. Thank you.
Other than that, I hasten to add that your comments have also placed some well-founded doubts on what I thought was a certainty about the RCC and their granting the much discussed “pallium” bit.
In closing, I can only say that heartily agree with your last paragraph. Once again, I reitarete my gratitude for responding to my message. Not bashing here, simply trying to clear-up what version of history is correct.
BTW, lalenin, what are your thoughts on the above? (Whatever the origins of your username, I’m sure it was not chosen to express Communist sympathies. )
I have given up on trying to fix the Cuban economy, if private enterprise is opened up it will almost certainly supplant any government run venture, just because the government sucks at it so badly. We saw that with the paladares, small restaurants, despite the difficulties getting supplies they became more popular than any government run one, consequently the government has made it so difficult to have one with taxes, inspections, fees, fines, and so on, that they have almost disappeared.
As for my name, I attended “Vladimir I. Lenin” school in Cuba, usually called “la lenin”. It is an elite school, Fidel’s sons attended at the same time I did, although they had private classes and were always surrounded by bodyguards, and they certainly did not work 4 hours in the fields every day like I did. Anyway, attending “la lenin”, is sort of a badge of pride, it was more academically challenging than university.
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It always kind of amazes me that I can read Spanish well enough to understand both of those sentences in their entirety with just two years of high school Spanish. I really should start telling prospective employers that I’m bilingual.
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Gracias, joven. Aunque no me extraña sobremanera, recuerda el viejo dicho de que “los extremos se tocan.”
Translation: Thank you, young man/woman. Although I am not overly surprised, remember the old saying that “extremes touch.”
Then I say, go for it – can’t hurt, can it? While my sentences weren’t particularly difficult to translate, they certainly weren’t at Spanish 101 reading comprehension. Even threw in an old Spanish proverb in there – seems we have one for every situation.
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