Spoil Guys & Dolls for Me, Please.

What I know about this musical I’ve gleaned from the liner notes on the CD (the soundtrack to the mid-90’s Broadway revival) and from the songs on the CD itself. I understand the general idea, but I’m unclear on how it all works out.

And since I don’t anticipate G & D coming to Springfield, IL any time soon, I’ll just have to get the Straight Dope™.

That’s from the liner notes on the CD.

What I want to know is:
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[li]How does Sky convince Sarah to go to Havana with him? I know that at one point she slaps him, so he must woo her pretty mightily between songs on the CD.[/li][li]How does Nathan get the money for his game? Does Sky lose the bet and have to pay him?[/li][li]Why does Nathan so quickly fall in love with Adelaide after ignoring her for 14 years (preceeding the song Guys & Dolls)?[/li][li]Why do Nathan & Nicely Nicely Johnson wind up at a prayer meeting (the song Sit Down You’re Rockin the Boat)?[/li][li]Sky rolls for $100,000 at some point during the craps game (the song Luck Be a Lady Tonight). Before the song, he says “I’ve got a little more than dough riding on this bet.” What does THAT mean? And how does his roll turn out? Does he win?[/li][li]The photo on the last page of my CD notes shows Sky in what looks like a bus driver’s uniform. Does he give up gambling for Sarah and get a straight job?[/li][/ul]

If there’s anything else that can help me understand this, let me know.

Thanks!

Go down to the video store and rent the 1950s movie version of “Guys and Dolls” starring Marlon Brando and Frank Sinatra. It isn’t a perfect version – there were some very minor changes to the story and some larger changes to the score – but it’s pretty darned good and will clarify the story for you completely.

How does Sky convince Sarah to go to Havana with him? He promises to bring in enough “bonafide sinners” to fill her prayer meeting and save her mission (which is in danger of being closed because of the lack of clients) in exchange for her company to Havana. In Havana, she gets a little tipsy and they fall in love.

How does Nathan get the money for his game? Does Sky lose the bet and have to pay him? Nathan doesn’t need the money as it turns out – while Sky and Sarah are in Havana, Nathan breaks into the mission and holds his craps game there. Later, Sky does pay off the bet, claiming that he didn’t win it (take Sarah to Havana) at all.

Why does Nathan so quickly fall in love with Adelaide after ignoring her for 14 years (preceeding the song Guys & Dolls)? He’s been in love with her all along – they were engaged for 14 years – he just didn’t want to get married. He doesn’t want to lose her, and when she finally puts her foot down, he – reluctantly – marries her at the end.

Why do Nathan & Nicely Nicely Johnson wind up at a prayer meeting (the song Sit Down You’re Rockin the Boat)? Sky tracks everybody down at the second craps game – the one at the mission on the night Sky and Sarah went to Havana had been broken up by the police – and bets them all $1000 against their presence at the prayer meeting on one roll of the dice.

Sky rolls for $100,000 at some point during the craps game (the song Luck Be a Lady Tonight). Before the song, he says “I’ve got a little more than dough riding on this bet.” What does THAT mean? And how does his roll turn out? Does he win? See above. He has both his honor as a gambler and her love riding on the roll. Remember, he had promised Sarah the sinners in exchange for her company to Havana. And, she was mad at him, thinking he had known that Nathan planned to use the mission for the craps game and that Sky had taken her to Havana to get her out of the way.

The photo on the last page of my CD notes shows Sky in what looks like a bus driver’s uniform. Does he give up gambling for Sarah and get a straight job? In the play, Sky (and Nicely-Nicely, who undergoes a conversion experience during “Sit Down, You’re Rocking the Boat”) appear in Salvation Army uniforms (which look a little like bus uniforms, I guess) in the final scene, and Nathan appears in an apron – looking as if he owns or works in a store. So, yes, in the play they both seem to have gone straight after marriage. This isn’t so obvious in the movie, BTW – the wedding is the final movie scene and both Sky and Nathan are wearing their regular gambler suits (although Nicely-Nicely is wearing a Salvation Army uniform and playing in the band). Both Nathan and Sky are delivered to the wedding, BTW, in a paddy wagon by Sergeant Brannigan, who gives Adalaide away. Nathan tries to make a break for it, but Sky grabs him and hauls him up to Adalaide to do his duty.

God, I love this play! I’ve seen it at least a dozen times. Twice in touring Broadway versions (in San Diego and in Boston), once in London (with a wonderful tap-dancing Sky), and in various dinner theatres, high school productions, and community theatre productions. I’ve never seen a bad version – they were all fun. The best Nicely-Nicely I ever saw was in a community-theatre version in Newport, RI.

This is weird, this is the second synopsis I have given someone for Guys and Dolls in two days.

How does Sky convince Sarah to go to Havana with him? I know that at one point she slaps him, so he must woo her pretty mightily between songs on the CD.

He tries to trick her by promising to find sinners to come to her Mission (it’s suffering from poor attendance) and saying that the only catch is that she has to go to dinner with him at his favorite restaurant, the trick being that his favorite restaurant is in Havana. When she first learns this, she refuses to go, but then relents, obsensibly to save the Mission, but we (the audience) can see she is also starting to be fascinated with Sky.

How does Nathan get the money for his game? Does Sky lose the bet and have to pay him?
I think what you’re talking about is the money for the space for the game – he doesn’t get the money for the garage, so instead he comes up with the idea to have the game in the Mission.

Why does Nathan so quickly fall in love with Adelaide after ignoring her for 14 years (preceeding the song Guys & Dolls)?
This is just one of those mysteries of musical theater. My impression is that he does love Adelaide, the plot is just playing on that stereotype of guys who don’t want to settle down (and women who nag them to).

*Why do Nathan & Nicely Nicely Johnson wind up at a prayer meeting (the song Sit Down You’re Rockin the Boat)?

Sky rolls for $100,000 at some point during the craps game (the song Luck Be a Lady Tonight). Before the song, he says “I’ve got a little more than dough riding on this bet.” What does THAT mean? And how does his roll turn out? Does he win?*

This is the same plot point – Sky needs to bring people to the Mission to satisfy his end of the Havana bargain, so he bets the gamblers that if he wins, they have to come to the meeting. It’s a funny scene at the Mission where all the gamblers share their regrets about gambling, mostly that they lost the bet with Sky. The song comes when Nicely Nicely Johnson and Nathan get caught up in the spirit of the meeting.
The photo on the last page of my CD notes shows Sky in what looks like a bus driver’s uniform. Does he give up gambling for Sarah and get a straight job?

At the end of the show, he’s running a newsstand.

Minor correction or elaboration: Nathan’s FIRST[ “oldest established permanent floating crap game in New York” is held in the mission but it’s busted up by a raid from the cops (just as Sky & Sarah get back, which reminds Sarah that Sky is a gambler [she also thinks he had a hand in the mission’s use, which he didn’t]). Unable to use the mission a second time, Nathan reorganizes the game in the sewers under NYC (which are amazingly clean and colorful) and that’s where Sky pays him the $1,000 he “owes” him and wins the sinner’s souls.

Nathan by this time has earned thousands from his take of the crap game but loses it all to a gambler named Big Julie who forces him to play at gunpoint. Big Julie insists on using his own dice, which are blank (“but I remembers where da spots were…”). When Nathan tries to make Big Julie play with honest dice (after Big Julie’s gun has been taken away by Sky), Julie’s friend Harry-the-Horse says “Nuttin’ doin… with honest dice Big Julie couldn’t make a point to save his soul”, which gives Sky the idea to roll for $1000 each against the gamblers’ souls (cue song: Luck Be a Lady Tonight.)

Hijack, but how in hell did Marlon go from the studly Sky and sleazy but studly Stanley to Kurtz?

He hired Orson Welle’s dietician.

You’re looking for a plot summary?

::: singing ::: I’ve got the plot right here…

It’s name is Paul Revere!

and here’s a guy who says if the plot’s not clear

sue me, sue me

I was a Hot Box dancer once…I’m not saying how long it took me to get that joke.

Did anyone else see the episode of the simpsons where Mark Hamill had to sing “Luck be a Lady Tonight” before they saw the actual play? Of you all, did anyone mentally replace the real lyrics with the ones from the episode, and start giggling in the theatere? Or am I the only one?

can do, can do
if he says the plot can do
can do, can do

Mark Hamill in Guys and Dolls? The mind boggles.

I’m in the Jedi line
And now I’m feelin’ fine
Because my dad’s the guy who went and killed Palpentine

:smiley:

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention. I was Nicely-Nicely (thank you) in my HS production. Which was kind of weird since I was the bass section leader in the choir.
I guess it helped that my sister kicked me rather hard the night before the auditions. :eek:

Actually, it goes:

"Luke, be a Jedi tonight
Just be a Jedi tonight!
Do it for Yoda, while we serve our guests a soda.
Uh, and do it for Chewie and the Ewoks, and all the other puppets … "

The song derails at this point.

Plus, don’t forget the intro Guys and Dolls, sung to the tune of Hooray for Hollywood.

Not really a plot point, by the way, but there’s a great line in that scene. Sky offers a $1000 bet with Big Julie, on “Am I a lefty or a righty?”. Julie turns him down, saying that there’s no way he could know that. Sky says “Here’s a hint”, and slugs him.

I have here a brand-new deck of cards on which the seal is not yet broken…

No way. I don’t want cider in my ear.

I’ve never seen the play live, only the movie, so I have wondered: It is “cider” on stage or did the movie, um, bowlderize it?

DD

It’s cider in the play, also (though it probably wasn’t cider in the original expression Runyan borrowed).

It is indeed “cider” on stage, and IIRC, it is also “cider” in Damon Runyon’s original story, “The Idyll of Miss Sarah Brown.” Although where he got the expression and what he might have changed it from, I have no idea.

Spoons
Occasional crapshooter, more frequent horseplayer, and onetime Benny Southstreet in a community production of G&D. Hey, I could not only supply my own copy of the Daily Racing Form, I was also the only one in the cast who could understand it!