Uh oh. Lib ’s morphing into Pepe Le Peu. Definitely one of those “End of Days” things.
:dubious: You can do better than that!
Really_Not_All_That_Bright:
“Libertarian” has morphed into something pretty unrecognisable, too, though.
I believe the current definition is “overwrought former or fringe Republican who likes guns more than he dislikes gays and/or drugs.” See Bob Barr, Ron Paul, etc.
Actually, I’ve heard Libertarians defined as, “Republicans who smoke pot.”
Not that I’m defending that definition.
No, they just lay side by side and do it horizontally. That way nobody has to work too hard…
Wow, my first pit! I have been de-virginized! As it turns out, I charged the guy five bucks and shipped the whole mess media mail. He THANKED me for the favor, even though I “lined my pocket” to the tune of $1.80 over my cost of media mail.
And yeah, I am going to continue on ebay. I am setting up a bunch of listings in Turbo Lister to go off on Thursday.
My original assertion that “lining pockets” is a lefty trope remains.
I find it interesting that I am being pitted for asking for advice which I eventually followed. I am not an asshole.
BrainGlutton:
Actually, I’ve heard Libertarians defined as, “Republicans who smoke pot.”
Not that I’m defending that definition.
Hee hee. I AM a Republican that smokes pot. That is, when I can afford it. I vote Libertarian when no other options seem rational, as a protest vote. As I did in the last Presidential election.
Geez Stan, we’re trying to operate a hijack here…
From Brad DeLong’s website, I see that Stanford hosted a chatterfest: “Liberals and Libertarians: Kissing Cousins or Distant Relatives? ”:
Although liberals generally view markets as the best way of organizing production and distribution, they have been more sympathetic than libertarians to governmental involvement in the management of markets for the public good. Moreover, whereas both liberals and libertarians generally concur that the public sector should avoid excessive spending, the former have been more supportive of government programs to expand opportunity and provide social insurance.
…Given shared positions with respect to civil liberties, state involvement in private affairs, fiscal responsibility, and the War in Iraq, it may be fruitful to search for common ground in other areas. Is there room for compromise on contested regulatory and fiscal issues, or are liberals and libertarians destined to be occasional tactical allies with fundamentally conflicting strategic visions?
…and today DeLong’s blog gives us his initial remarks: Modern Liberalism and Libertarianism: An Economist’s View :
…modern liberal economists were very happy for a long time with classical liberalism. Yes, there were externalities, and increasing returns over a range, and market power–but the presumption was that market failures were tolerable and in a sense optimal because of the magnitudes of government failures that would attend any attempt to compensate for them…
Then starting in the late nineteenth century liberal economists were mugged by reality…
The modern American liberal economist’s view of libertarianism is [that]… libertarianism is false in theory, but it is very much worth figuring out a set of limited, strategic interventions that will make the libertarian promises roughly true in practice.
