So how exactly do Kirk and Picard leave the Nexus and arrive on the planet where they confront Soran?
Just by riding off on horseback into a blob of light special effect?
I’m not buying it.
I think the point was that since the Nexus magically gives you everything you’ve always wanted, the only way to get out is to choose to give it up.
Or something.
It was cheesy.
But then again, that’s Star Trek.
I believe Guinan says something to that effect.
They borrowed God’s spaceship. It’s really fast.
G-d is omnipresent, traveling at warp 10 as it were, existing everywhere at once.
Which has got to piss off some folks in the girl’s locker room.
Why would God, need a starship?
(sorry, I couldn’t resist)
God owns an Infinite Improbability Drive?
By Jove! I think you’ve got it.
By answering the telephone.
And then reversing the charges.
Or the polarity, or something…
Jeez, don’t you people know anything about Star Trek?
They had Geordi re-route the antimatter stream from the tachyon matrix through the main deflector dish, while Data separated the saucer section and emitted a polarized muon pulse on all epsilon-neutral frequencies.
I mean, duh.
Seriously, the ending of that movie made no sense at all. To add to the confusion, when Picard exited the Nexus and returned to the planet, shouldn’t there have been a second Picard, the one who hadn’t yet entered the Nexus?
This was brought up somewhere after the movie came out, and I’ve always wondered about it myself:
If the Nexus will create whatever you want, how do we know that Picard and Kirk ever actually left? Couldn’t the Nexus have made them think they were on Veridian III and let them defeat Soran?
This means that Insurrection and Nemesis never happened, by the way. Unfortunately, the same is true for First Contact.
:eek:
Why, that would make everything in Star Trek a mere fiction!
I like the reasoning, tho. If Picard never leaves the Nexus, than there was no first contact, no Starfleet, no Captain Jonathon Archer of the NX-01, no Federation, no April, Pike, Kirk, Decker, Spock of the of the NCC-1701, no noticing of Picard by Q, no wormhole acquisition, no Wandering Jew adventures of the Voyager crew, no creation of Moriarity or other sentient holgrams, etc, etc… None of it ever happened because the Borg got to Earth first.
So, everything we’ve ever seen in all the series and movies (Trek Doper threads, too) are simply some Borg network day dreaming.
Take THAT, Berman!
Well, at least that means that we were all correct when we decided that TATV never happened.
That interpretation doesn’t hold because Soran was in the Nexus a good eighty years before Picard was but was taken out of it, showing it’s possible to leave.
Plus, the Borg Incursion in First Contact was referenced in an episode of Deep Space Nine, confirming its validity.
Soran was forcibly removed by the Enterprise-B’s transporter. Picard and Kirk “decided” to leave. Therefore, everything that happens after that point never happened, including the events seen adn referenced to on DS9, Voyager and Enterprise. First contact was made with the Vulcans, but not as depicted in the movie, since the movie didn’t actually happen.
The events of Enterprise didn’t happen because they’re directly based on the first contact story in the movie First Contact.
There, I just fixed the Berman-Braga era of Trek. What do I win?
A cookie!
Check your cache.
If one can be removed by force then it’s entirely possible one can leave of their own volition as well.
If you choose to believe that the Nexus holds onto whomever it captures though, the more logical explanation is that the TNG movies and Enterprise, as it is based on events in First Contact, were all delusions of Soran’s mind but *DS9 * and VGR, having little to nothing to do with any of the four movies, all unfolded exactly as they were shown.
No Sovereign class starship has been shown outside of the last three movies and the limited TNG cameos on the other two shows never made mention of any of the events post-Generations and so the argument could be made that the universes are distinct assuming you want to argue this line of reasoning.
Diceman*
They had Geordi re-route the antimatter stream from the tachyon matrix through the main deflector dish, while Data separated the saucer section and emitted a polarized muon pulse on all epsilon-neutral frequencies.
I mean, duh.*
Just a small nitpick. They couldn’t have used that technique because it was first discovered decades later at the Daystrom Institute while conducting advanced experiments in sub-space research.
He’s right, Diceman. What you describe would create a serious breach in continuity.
