Star Trek: Generations

Pretty mediocre but then TNG movies are (First Contact was okay). I haven’t seen it since it came out but isn’t there a scene early on when Kirk, Scotty and Checkov are followed by media types-about the first time we’ve seen such people in a Star Trek universe?

Everybody except Paramount knew that if you had Kirk and Picard in a film, you want a “buddy-buddy” film. But I guess they wanted to establish the TNG franchise in movies.

Nice scene: Data with emotions singing “Life Forms…you tiny little life forms” when scanning a planet".

Apparently, to leave the Nexus and go anywhere/anytime, you have to ride out of it on horseback.

Check out Confused Matthew’s review of Generations, needless to say he doesn’t like it.:wink:

http://www.confusedmatthew.com/Star-Trek-Generations.php

I heard Patrick Stewart was laughing at or critical of Shatner’s acting here. True?

No, this wasn’t in the movie. Whatever he may have thought or said offscreen, he acted very serious and professional during the film. Picard looks genuinely moved when Kirk dies.

Damn straight.

You want Kirk back?

I got your Kirk right here.

I agree that Kirk’s death should have been more epic.

Kirk was there, so I thought, to act as a bridge between the generations. Which is a little lazy. Given that he was there at the start of the film itching to command, that he was always described by friends and foes as a great Captain, why not send him out as a great Captain? The Undiscovered Country did that already, but this is Kirk being sent out and killed off, why not make it as fitting as possible?

If you were Picard (and you weren’t still stuck in the Nexus…) would you not ask to be brought back in time with Kirk to somewhere he would be most useful? On the bridge of the Enterprise? Wasteful given what a good Captain Picard already is, so he just asks Kirk to start punching Soran. Really? He didn’t want to fetch someone else more capable at ass kicking to help him out? And he didn’t want to go back and maybe save his family in France, not take Soran to the observatory in the first place and sort things out from there, where less people die?

It just didn’t make sense I’m afraid.

Not long after Generations this novel came out (note the author).

The general plot was that a group of Romulans aligned with the Borg to create a Kirk-borg by downloading Kirk’s consciousness at the moment of his death (hence, according to this novel, the reason for the “Oh my”).

It wouldn’t surprise me if Shatner did, in fact, script that line, and did it with this in mind.

But, wasn’t Generations pretty much of a “buddy movie” (or at least of a cooperative bent) as far as Kirk and Picard were concerned? And Paramount was certainly aware of the need.

From Memory Alpha:

You can criticize the final product, but Berman & Co. did abandon the adversarial concept of the script and focused more solidly on a cooperative type of Kirk and Picard adventure.

I don’t mind him dying, but he was supposed to die alone. And if he’s gonna come back to help Picard, give him an ending better than Tasha Yar’s.

I like Generations, although not as much as First Contact (the best TNG movie), but the biggest problem with it is the Nexus itself. It’s so clearly a deus ex machina and the writing is so inconsistent about it – first, Soran and Guinan’s ship is rescued from the Nexus, but then for some reason Soran can’t just fly another ship into it, he has to come up with some supervillainish plot to destroy a planet to return to the Nexus. WTF.

Favorite quote is from Riker: “Speak for yourself, sir. I plan on living forever.”