For your edification and illumination, of course.
Whoa…think pretty highly of yourself, don’t you? You ever consider acting as a career?
Well, if you don’t want sarcastic replies, don’t ask stupid questions.
Better than the residents of Vulcan, Alberta, methinks.
And as for the codes, I assumed Nero wanted them in the interest of stealth.
Yikes, I forgot about them, and I’ve been to Vulcan, AB. Got some fridge magnets as souvenirs.
I bet it wasn’t happy time on the prairie the night the movie opened.
It was. Bruce Greenwood showed up in the town and took a busload of residents into the Big City to see it a day early. I hear they had a great time.
And so did I. Loved it. Plot holes abound but I don’t care. This is a great world they’ve created. I’m thrilled at the idea of two more movies, although I’d like a better thought-out script as much as anyone else.
Thanks!
Star Trek 90211 comes right after 90210!
Okay, I might have to change my sig…
I seriously wonder why they don’t have some of those fellows as technical advisers.
Clear up thepulsed phasers for example, or jumping to warp near the space station.
Yes, they did- in a mining ship. Why does even a Romulan mining ship have the firepower of a dozen battleships? Even a mining ship of today would be sunk by a fleet from Sir Francis Drake time, and the different wasn;t 400 years in tech.
The film made no sense at all, over and over and over. It wasnt plot holes, the whole entire plot, beginning to end, was a giant black hole. It is not that it violated canon, it was that it was simply a bad film, enlivened by a few good performances*, some nice action and a lot of throwaway in-jokes.
- Except- Worst. Spock. Ever.
For anyone with the technology to build a proper space-capable warship, whether it’s Warhammer 40,000, Star Wars or Star Trek, I think a dedicated kill-stuff warship could be pretty much as heavily armed as a dedicated kill-stuff space station.
That’s silly. You’re forgetting that the bigger the cannon the more energy will be required to move it. And that’s energy you’re not pouring out in the cannon blasts.
Now TV and Movie physics is of course different, but for instance, DS9 could take any single ship it faced.
It was a mining ship that had modern torpedoes. Do you think that a mining ship from today that had modern cruise missiles could destroy Drake’s fleet?
It made plenty of sense. Perhaps like BE above you weren’t listening?
Well, he definitely came in a strong second. 
Lobohan, I’m honestly curious – why do you seem to so desperately need to explain away other people’s criticism? Does it cheapen your enjoyment of the movie if other people didn’t like it? You should be happy that you enjoyed it; that not all people like the same things is pretty much a given. For instance, Kirk’s insta-promotion apparently worked for you in a way that you could buy it in the context of the film; it didn’t work for me, and others, and thus took me out of the movie. You can’t change that by applying post hoc patches; I simply found it unbelievable, it didn’t work for me in the story, as there was no compelling reason for this to happen other than that he’s Kirk and needs to be captain. Same goes for other plot inconsistencies. It’s not that we’re determined not to like it, it’s that we didn’t like it, and can’t retroactively be made to like it. Frankly, this obsession with dispelling other’s criticism seems a bit bizarre to me.
So? We’re not talking about 1960’s technology, where you need a 30 : 1 mass : payload ratio just to get into orbit. If the Federation has managed to get this down to 1.2:1 or better, I’d say that’s close enough not to write off warships for the reduction in combat effectiveness from swapping 16% of your lasers for FTL and maneuvering capacity.
There are no stupid questions, only stupid people who get asked questions.
This thread is brilliant if you imagine Sheldon Cooper’s voice while reading it.
Huh. Even the movie’s worst critics have tended to single out Quinto’s performance as rising above the level of the rest of the work.
Can you say something more specific about why you thought his was a particularly bad performance, or a particularly bad interpretation of Spock’s character?
Sure, that must be it.
Sure.
This argument undercuts the need for “access codes”, since “a mining ship from today with modern cruise missiles” would have no need to care about Francis Drake’s various flag signals and whatnot, would they? Certainly no need to torture Drake himself for passwords so they could sneak into London harbour and destroy it and then London itself.