Vegas is a long drive from Riverside by hoverbike.
Except that the landscape looked a lot more like central CA, so it wasn’t that far.
Sorry, canon is now changed. No more Riverside, IA, it’s now Riverside CA.
Nope. Riverside was never mentioned until this movie, so it’s now canon when it wasn’t before.
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I keep forgetting how concrete operational Trekkies can be. Ebert (or whoever said it) was not referring to the actual site of construction, but to the look of the ship. The inside of it looks like Vegas–all shiny and glittery and sparkly, with lots of lights and sleek consoles etc.
I still say that quarry was NOT in Iowa, though. And Kid Kirk should have been drowned at birth–he was ugly and obnoxious, not a good combo. Just MO.
It just struck me that one of Kirk’s greatest lines is now inaccurate: “I’m from Iowa. I only work in space.”
Kirk says he’s from Iowa sometime in the first season of TOS. I have just finished watching seasons 1 and 2, but wasn’t noting down stuff like that. I was noting anything down, just enjoying the shows. I can’t access the link from Iceland, so I can’t watch it now (not that I want to–I’m in freaking Iceland. I’m only here to check email and get caught up). He’s an Iowa farm boy, for sure. What is this CA stuff? :dubious: 
Oh, I knew exactly what you meant, but I’m a Trek nerd and a Doper, so I was being pedantic for the fun of it.
He still is. He never said he was born there.
He said he was from Iowa in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
Thank god for that–I was worried that you were taking all of this waaaayyyy too seriously!
You have to go to Iceland to check email? Is that like driving from Riverside, CA to Riverside, IA just for a joy ride?
Don’t give him your address. Just a little advice, ok?
Heh. You have no idea. I don’t even consider myself an active Trekkie anymore.
I thought the preferred term was Trekker.
See? I don’t even know, and this is something one should know.
I saw The Commander, the woman who wore a Star Trek uniform to the Whitewater trail on a Kroger parking lot.
She was in the movie Trekkies.
Don’t get him started. You know how some guy goes out and machine guns everyone in the neighborhood and the little old ladies say, “Who knew? He was such a nice boy”? I’m just sayin’.
Only the completely socially inept insist on that term. In fact, insisting on that term will get you soundly mocked, at least in my universe. True Trekkies embrace their geekdom and can even laugh at their dedication. IOW, if you take it seriously enough to harp on just what you’re called, you have already lost. It’s a fun, campy TV show that had intelligent dialogue, and a way of presenting a worldview that could (and did) spark intelligent discussion. It isn’t real or probable or likely. Enjoy it as much as you like, but really, people–get a grip! (not directed at anyone in particular, just saying).
The sad fact is that I cannot send email from Iceland. My Mac keeps telling me it’s not recognized or some such. So, I am communicating with family via Facebook–a sad statement on contemporary life (but a welcome one when the ATM card also wouldn’t work!). I am so into ST right now I even went out and bought a book (novel) about it. I am not about to tell you all which one because I haven’t read it yet and don’t want to hear about what a poor choice I made…
I didn’t get the opening scene at all. Driving his Uncle’s vintage corvette off a cliff… I would have killed him. The car was probably worth more than the Enterprise.
Certainly a campy film.
The original James T. Kirk was never “campy”.
No, he wasn’t and therein lies the secret to his success. Like TV Batman, he played the role completely straight. Kirk is a hero, someone to look up to and admire. If anything, the viewer identifies more with McCoy–reacting in anger or fear to what comes along. This is sublimely simplified, of course. What I like about TOS is how they allowed even minor characters like Nurse Chapel to be complex. I love her crushing on Spock, and yet she also gets her digs in to him at times.
It was a fine show. Compared to shows that are on now (shows in general), its excellence stands out. (yes, there’s some good TV, but it’s hard to find these days. Mostly I don’t bother. Since I can’t afford HBO, I miss out on truly excellent stuff).
That first example doesn’t look campy to me. Cheesy, maybe, but not campy, and arguably not even cheesy when taken in context, considering he’s supposed to be under the influence of an alien mindfuck.
The second example does look campy and is what I thought of when reading post #977, but it isn’t even Kirk, at least not 100%. A madwoman has taken over his body. Not the most subtle of acting moments, but again when taken in context it’s not as peculiar as it might seem in isolation.