STAR TREK: The Menagerie Part 1

Those Talosians are pretty frail-looking. I’d swear they were women with their boobs strapped down.

^^^[2005]In 1966 when this ep aired, I was a couple months shy of being three years old, so to play this game sincerely, I gotta ask… “What are boobs?”[/2005]

Sir Rhosis

Y’all do realize that “The Menagerie” was essentially a re-packaging of footage from the original Star Trek pilot, “The Cage”, with the badly-burned Cap’n Pike and 13-year-flashback stuff added as a framing story. Right?

I have no idea what you’re talking about.

I saw the original pilot last year (1966) at a secret screening.

I just thought of something. These flashbacks we’re watching at the mutiny trial are from “memory tapes”, the memories being a combination of Spock’s and Captain Pike’s, I assume. So, if they have the ability to tap into the memory of Captain Pike — in such detail, no less — don’t you think they ought to be able to tap directly into Pike’s current thoughts (his mind seems to be intact) and give him some kind of artificial speech?

But I guess as kingpengvin said, it’s more a dramatic device to show how much Pike had sacrificed in the line of duty; seated coffin is a strikingly apt way to put it.

Wasn’t she! The 2nd officer was kinda hot too, in a brainy sort of way.

Imagine being made to choose between the two of them though! :eek: :smiley: :cool:

Naw, if they were Pike’s actual memories, they’d be through his own eyes. Unless he somehow had a remote camera installed on the bridge and everywhere else, feeding scenes into his head, that is.

That “Number One” actress must not have good legs, or she’d be in a miniskirt like all the other women.

Seems to me I’ve seen the butthead costumes in some bad B&W movie a few years ago.

The yeoman was wearing pants, too. If the flashback scenes are the original pilot, it looks like a few costume changes have occurred.

[Oh, wait a minute. We don’t see Yeoman Colt until Part 2 of The Menagerie. And although Sean Kenney is listed in the end credits of both parts, his character name is not given. Never mind.]

[I’ve got a question. We know that actor Malachi Throne voiced The Keeper in the original version of *The Cage*, where The Keeper’s voice is recognizably male with a little reverb added.* The Keeper’s voice is different in *The Menagerie*, raised to an androgynous pitch. Is that just Throne’s voice from the original *Cage* soundtrack re-filtered, or did Throne re-record The Keeper’s lines for *The Menagerie*, or did someone else dub The Keeper for *The Menagerie*?**]

[* The all-color version of The Cage on home video uses mostly the soundtrack from The Menagerie, with only one line of the male-voiced Keeper remaining.]

[** Yes, I know Malachi Throne also plays Mendez in The Menagerie.]

That cute blonde Yoeman in “WNMHGB” wore pants, too. What was her name? Smith? Jones? :slight_smile:

I kind of like the idea that all the uniforms aren’t, y’know, uniform. I think someone mentioned this in one of the earlier threads, too. It makes sense that on a ship with that many people, with so many different duties, that there’d be some variation in clothing requirements.

Not that I’ve got anything against cute girls in short skirts…

thwartme

What is this “home video” you mention? Are you able to purchase kinescopes from Desilu to watch in your living room, sitting in your Barcalounger and munching a Swanson’s TV Dinner? Perhaps we’ll have something like a tape recorder that can capture video images someday.

And perhaps someday computers will be even more advanced than the ones on Star Trek, able to provide output on something like a TV screen instead of printing them out on paper tape or flashing some lights. Maybe they’ll be able to communicate with each other on a net of some kind. Why, maybe a century or so later they’ll be small enough and cheap enough that we can each have one to own, and maybe they can be networked too. Let’s just hope that our descendants will find something more useful to do with that wondrous technology than post notes to each other on some bulletin board thing. Like I said, that doesn’t exist in Star Trek, but maybe it will in the next generation.

Malachi Throne was on “Lost in Space” too, IIRC.

Yeoman Rand is her name. I’m guessing the name is a tribute to the RAND Corporation, the California think tank which publicity from the network says served as a consultant for the series.

[**ElvisL1ves **, bracketed text are my 2005 comments. Your 1966 self can ignore them. :slight_smile: The first consumer videotape recorder came out in 1963, with substantially less expensive models available by 1965, such as the Sony CV-2000D at $695. A 1965 article from Time magazine on the home VTR market.]

No, no… not Rand. I know and deeply, deeply love Rand. But in “Where No Man Has Gone Before” there’s this adorable ensign who actually holds Mitchell’s hand as they go through the galactic barrier. Earlier, Kirk messes up her name. I can’t remember whether he calls her Smith, and she corrects him that it’s Jones, or the other way around.

Anyway, she wore pants.

thwartme

Don’t be ridiculous. Remember what IBM Chairman Thomas Watson said, way back in 1943:
“I think there is a world market for maybe five computers.”

Do you think you know more about computers than IBM!

I’d buy one. I’d have a computer room. Sorry I mean a room to house the computer. The problem is I’m not sure how to write the punchcard programs. That is a neat thing on the show apparently they have plastic cards with all the programming on them. Pop in the card and the computer has the information. Neato. Seems a more durable format than cardboard cards.

[My mother had to use those damned cards in the 70s a few times. Shecomplained about the problems when someone didn’t put the accounting “software” (not the term she used then of course) in the wrong order.]

Several thousand computers later, don’t you think IBM probably changed its mind by 1966?

re: the thought monitor for Pike, I’d guess they’d get tired of him saying “I wish i could still use my wang” over and over again.

[I almost forgot to mention: Six years ago I had in my possession the excursion jacket that Captain Pike wears [here](http://jeffreyhuntermovies.com/images/Star%20Trek/ST3r.jpg). Not a copy, but the original, with “J. Hunter” written on a piece of cloth tape under the collar. The jacket had not been stored well, and the synthetic fabric it was made of (probably acrylic) was literally turning to dust as I handled it — I had to lay newspaper out before unfolding it. Like most costumes and props, it looked better on the screen than in real life.]