Have you seen the remastered original series? We’ve been downloading the first season episodes from Netflix and they look fantastic. All the space scenes, like those frequent scene-bridging shots of the Enterprise orbiting a planet, have been replaced with CGI. They’ve even replaced the close-ups of the flip-mechanism chronometers with a digital display. Purists won’t like it, and I do wish the DVD sets included both the old and new versions, but we’ve been having fun looking for the changes.
I indulged myself and bought the newly re-mastered series recently. They are fun to watch. And they are very clean and bright–it’s nice.
I plan on purchasing the new ST movie (I also want to buy the others over time–I just finished watching ST II and III tonight), but I will be FF’ing through Kirk as a child…
How much is that costing you, and can you keep copies? As I recall buying the DVDs was going to be a lot of gold pressed latinum.
There’s a deleted scene on the DVD that explains the car theft incident and helps explain why this alternate Kirk is a juvenile delinquent instead of an academic:
An abusive stepfather.
A lot of sweet shots of the Enterprise coming to and leaving planets, but fortunately they didn’t go Lucas-apeshit including annoying or incongruous elements. The best part of watching the remastered stuff is seeing the 8-10 minutes of character-based stuff that gets cut from the reruns these days. Back to the comparison from TOS to the movie, in the uncut shows, Kirk’s comes across as far more contemplative and, dare I say it, Picard-like? Which the new guy, swell as he is, just ain’t. Yet; I think (shit, I had to look this up on the DVD box!) Chris Pine can do a more cerebral Kirk but I don’t know if he’ll get much of a chance. I doubt the movies will veer too far off the pew-pew course laid out in this one.
Re: spoiler: I thought they said that was his uncle. Not that it mattered, if he had to live with the dick.
Re: Another deleted scene: just how pissed was Wynona Ryder that they cut the scene of her looking like she was 35 instead of 65?
It’s part of the Watch Instantly feature on a Netflix plan, and doesn’t cost any extra. You don’t get to keep a copy. We just bought a Samsung Blue-Ray player that will download directly from Netflix, and for the most part it works great, although the selection isn’t very good yet. For some reason they only have the first TOS season available to stream, for instance. I’m hoping they’ll make the rest available soon.
We’ve only had the player for a few weeks, and we had trouble with the download for the first time last Saturday night, during prime time, when the movie we were streaming kept getting hung up.
I agree–and that alone will ruin it for me. I am so tired of blam-blam shoot ‘em up plots. The original ST had intelligent scripts (with some notable exceptions), but no matter–the characters were consistent. Kirk Prime was impatient with Bones’ passion, but he was also just as impatient with Spock’s picayune logic. Kirk was the rational middle with action skills as well. I do hope the writers allow Pine to grow up. Then again, it’s males 16-25 for whom movies are made.
As I recall from watching them on the Science Fiction channel, they changed the two button remote control from Spock’s Brain to six or eight, memory fails me.
“The Wrath of Khan” split the diff nicely, but it’s too soon to kill anyone.
Well, yes, they were the Id, Ego and Superego.
And copied from The Forbidden Planet.
Genesis is Planet Forbidden!
What I meant by allowing Pine to grow up is not that he would be killed off, but made to stay an immature, cocky bastard. Women threw themselves at Kirk Prime. While I can’t speak for today’s younger women, all New Kirk would get from me (and my generation) is a slap across the face or a drink thrown in his face. Ugh.
Id/Superego/Ego is what I am reminded of when I watch TOS.
I was thinking Spock’s death in TWOK, they can’t do anything like that because the characters haven’t built the emotional bonds yet.
Dames throwing themselves at Kirk, yeah. Another comparison between old and new: women in the old, either rendered completely useless by their love for (Kirk/sometimes Spock/McCoy with that pregnant dame/other) or rendered batshit crazy by same (Janice Lester, Kodos’s daughter re: her dad)
New: Competent but still falling all over the guys in their off hours (Uhura, Gaila the Green Gal)
:dubious:
Plenty of the “old” women were competent, from Carol Marcus to the woman who chose Kirk has her stud (literally) for her dying world. Kodo’s daughter was not rendered batshit due to her love for Kirk–she was already batshit. The pregnant T’ere’s wife was not in love with Mac-Coy; she was impressed with his medical abilities.
I don’t recall one woman on TOS who acted helpless, useless or scarecrow (if I only had a brain) re Kirk*. Many of them tried to use him, and were used by him instead. Turn about’s fair play and all that. And not all of them fell for him, which made the by play amongst the Big Three even funnier. Most of the women used their sexual prowess or beauty or both to try to get Kirk in their power or to help them in some way. Given the time frame it was made in, that they actually showed intelligence and not just flesh was fairly edgy.
The new Orion chick is horrid, btw. Worst makeup job ever.
*Note caveat. I still laugh over that one chick, “brain, brain! What is brain!”, but she was after Spock–well, his brain, but still!
I love watching chicks argue about Star Trek. It’s hawt.
I saw the movie a couple of nights ago, so here’s my near-useless, non-trekker take:
I liked it, mostly, even with it’s kind of overbearing “young guns coming of age to trumpet-y background music” thing. What I didn’t like was the Spockus Ex Machina time warp BS. He’s just some old dude woodenly whistling through his dentures anymore; sorry.
I liked that Spock and Kirk were punk-ass motherfuckers when they were young. I think it would’ve been better if they’d have gone on hating each other a bit longer.
Unfortunately, the sequel is likely to be that whole lame self-congratulatory crap that sequels invariably fail to avoid being.
What!?! JFC, they changed the Orion woman dancing in The Cage? I’m gonna eviscerate somebody…
Hawt is the girl that was the female lead in the episode with Apollo. She’s probably in her 70’s now, but in that episode…yowza.
*Feminist interpretation *of Star Trek. Nerdgasm.
I think she’s talking about the Orion girl in the new movie, and if so I agree, the makeup job was bad. (I haven’t seen the green girl on the enhanced DVDs yet.)