You think she looks weird in the movie, there’s an unenhanced deleted scene where she looks like she got sprayed with a mixture of moss and mud puddle water.
Rachel Nicholls was the lead in one on my favorite ‘Annie loves it so it’ll be cancelled in 4 episodes’ shows, The Inside, (Tim Minear show about a childhood kidnap victim turned FBI agent. The only detective-y show I’ve liked since X Files) so the green chick gets a thumbs up from me.
In the final scene of the movie, as the Enterprise is heading out, there’s a large nebula on screen. Did it look to anyone like a bird? A Great Bird of the Galaxy?
I enjoyed it. Like most riftrax, it has moments of lagging, in which I found myself watching the movie more than listening to the riff, but there were a ton of great jokes.
Kirk: winks "Helloooo, Ladies*
Mike: [sarcastic]“Yeah, I’m not 100% convinced that he’s a virgin.”
I just saw the new movie, and I thought it was pretty damn epic. I had no trouble following the plot, such as it was, but then I tend to happily ignore plot holes.
I don’t get the ragging on newKirk, though. He is intelligent. He’s shown multiple times in the movie that he’s highly perceptive. He’s a bit of a psycho, yeah, and he took the “I refuse to believe in a no-win scenario” shtick a little too far, but he wasn’t an idiot by any means. When the Enterprise was first en route to Vulcan and he rushed into the bridge with his fat hands, he pieced together all the facts he’d overheard and came to the correct conclusion that they were running headlong into a trap. If Spock and Pike hadn’t listened and come out of warp in Red Alert status, they’d have been destroyed by the debris.
As for the field promotions, it definitely looks like Starfleet’s become more of a space opera-style organization, more akin to Star Wars than Star Trek. As I’m more a Star Wars fan than a Trek fan, I have no problem with this.
No he does not. In the theatrical release he calls the boy Johnny. Jim Kirk’s brother is named George.
In the DVD extras you do see that this boy is supposed to be his brother George but since the scenes were cut with George, they changed the boy on the road to Johnny and not Jim’s brother.
Yes. The Orion Prime chick still can’t dance–they didn’t enhance THAT feature, but she is still her muted 60s green. The New Orion looks like she was extruded out of a cake decorating tube. Blech.
I agree that New Kirk IS intelligent-but he’s not the renaissance man that Kirk Prime was*. He’s just too much of a hard ass douche for me. He does settle down later in the movie (and I need to see it again to be sure), but I truly disliked his “unintentional” copping of a feel re Uhura and his Peeping Tom nonsense. I doubt Kirk Prime ever hid under beds, ever. Kirk Prime used the women who tried to use him, but he was always a gentleman about it. Of course, that term is now considered archaic, too (even though it is a much more effective skill to have in such situations…)
The plot for the new movie was silly, but I worry more about the characterizations. If they can keep the chemistry, the franchise has a great future. IMO, this movie has some rough edges. It’s the next one that will cement the franchise’s future. I thought that the alternate reality was supposed to start at the time this first movie was made–not in the character’s childhoods, so all this abusive stepfather stuff, Kirk’s being a douche and not caring about his studies–it jars me. YMMV.
*And it would seem the time of the renaissance man is past. Now we have cartoon characters for “heros” and have substituted “splodey things” for deeper characters and subtle touches.
ETA: completely irrelevant aside: Kirk was the only one who called his brother Sam.
Gotta say my favorite character who seemed true to TOS was McCoy. Always complaining. He had De Forest’s mannerisms down including the raised eyebrow(oft overshadowed by Spock’s)
The chemistry between Kirk and Bones seemed to work for me in this version. Once again McCoy treats Kirk as an equal rather than commanding officer. Of course in this universe, as there doesn’t seem to be a chain of command, I’m sure everyone gets to treat everyone as equal. (Seriously what is the point of rank in this version of Star Fleet)
Also I was fond, if this was a call back rather than lazy writing, of the fact once again Starfleet leaves no one around to protect the centre of the Frederation. The old you are the only ship (OK in this case crew) in the sector is one of the most overused excuses in the Movie Franchise. By the way were all the ships that were deployed to Vulcan training ships? If so that would explain the need to send out so many cadets, but still, where were the experienced officers who I assume would have travelled with the rookies on training cruises. In WOK we saw that trainees at all levels were supervised by vetran officers (Sulu, Scotty, McCoy, Uhura… wait a minute where was her trainee?? Did she just need the job no one else would do?)
There was a throw-away line about the (deployed) fleet being engaged in some other system, and the unexpected crisis at Vulcan required the cadets to be mobilised.
I agree, it gets old.
But you need to generate tension and suspense, I guess, and somehow come up with a way to work around the fact that even though Star Fleet is a biggish organisation, sometimes it comes down to having the right man/crew in the right spot at the right time that saves the day.
I finally saw the movie this weekend in the theaters and it was pretty decent, I thought, but it also had all those glaring things in it that everyone’s been talking about already.
There was one point where they showed inside the Enterprise (the engine room?) and it was rows of giant copper tanks. I turned to my wife and commented that the Enterprise must be a microbrewery. I then read later that much of it was filmed in a Budweiser plant. It seemed completely out of place to me as did the water turbine. That was only there so Scotty could get sucked around in it for a wacky action sequence.
Space in a ship is a premium, it just doesn’t seem right to me that they looked like that.
I was puzzled about it too, but this is before replicator technology. I just chalked it up to being necessary for the water supply system to the quarters and lounges.
As for space being a premium, Star Trek spaceships aren’t necessarily submarines, although I suppose it would look more authentic. I’ve always figured that if their engines were powerful enough to go to warp speed, extra mass and volume simply wasn’t much of an issue and they had the luxury of being spacious.
Maybe they do need a turbine for the water systems, I can see that, but the way it was constructed didn’t seem right to me. IMO, it shouldn’t have those pipes running all over and the turbine in the middle of an open space on the deck. It should have been built into the wall or into the deck without the pipes sticking out like tentacles.
Fair enough. I did get the impression that the internal workings of the ships of that time were very rough and unfinished, without much hidden away; in other words, it was a conscious decision to have it look like that. Of course, then that’s at odds with the clean lines of the bridge, but different aesthetics for different areas of the ship, I suppose. I personally liked the open engineering areas; like I said before, it reminded me more of Star Wars than Star Trek, and that suits me just fine.
I don’t recall seeing any engineering areas in Star Wars save from the Millineum Falcon, however one spells it. The engineering must be pretty good, though, for the Emperor to be able to rescue Darth Vader in a matter of minutes. I’ll warrant Mr. Scott would love to get his hands on one of those wee bairns.
I really dug the brewery-as-engineering in the new Star Trek. At some point, a pipe is a pipe and tanks are tanks – you just need those things to run stuff. Much better than do-nothing lights behind plastic panels, for me anyhow.
The entire flick wowed me, really. The opening was practically worthy of its own movie. Five minutes in, I was signed on for five sequels.
Yeah, I liked all those pipes; it looked like an actual engineering facility. Mighty big water treatment (excuse me-‘inert reactant’ )plant for a ship that size but still neato. Or maybe I just like breweries. And the Kelvin opening. Hawt captain. Great sequence.
Our erstwhile brother Doper Bad Astronomer gave his hugs and thunks to the movie here.