I just saw The Next Generation on Sky the other day for the first time in years.I was shocked cos It looks terrible. The sets look too beige, the acting is dodgy and the storylines seem so much worse than they did when i first watched it. It seems to have dated far worse than the original Star Trek. Ugh I must be getting old.
mog
Perhaps one doesn’t expect it to be “old” because they are still making movies.
I think it has aged poorly as well though it still beats Voyager. I’d put the best TOS episodes against the best TNG episodes any day. TNG was a bit to self-rightous at times for my taste.
Marc
Ah, but again, when Janeway says “Break out the compression phaser rifles”, I get all tingly.
Amen on the over use of biege, I saw some episodes again after my pal got season 1 and 2 on dvd and almost every set looked like my doctor’s waiting room. bleh.
“The Inner Light” versus “The Trouble with Tribbles”? No question: TNG wins!
Beige? I hated Shades of Grey.
Not fair. You compare Citizen Kane to Cocanuts.
Say, Inner Light compared to The City on the Edge of Forever, or
Best of Both Worlds to Amok Time.
Oh really? How about “City On The Edge Of Forever” versus “The Naked Now”?
TOS forever!
I’ve seen every episode of TOS and TNG but I don’t know the names of most of the episodes. I know more of the TOS epsidoes simply because I’ve been watching them since I was 5 or 6. One thing I’ve noticed is that the episodes that were good 30 years ago are still good and those that were bad are still bad.
I really hated Roddenberry’s heavy handed new age philosophy presented in TNG. “Starfleet is not a military organization” my ass! (Though again Voyager was a lot worse in the new age touchy feely department.) I always found it odd that the most alien creatures on TNG were the humans.
Marc
But City on the Edge of Forever is the only really good TOS ep. TNG has Inner Light, Best of Both Worlds, Measure of a Man…
They both have a large portion of turkeys as well. There’s probably already a thread for worst eps.
Unfair comparison.
“City On The Edge Of Forever” won industry awards, and may be the best written ST episode, bar none.
YMMV.
“Don’t take shots at me…It sickens me.”
What, the whole thing? Come on. Which episodes did you see? Some of them sucked to begin with.
Well i didn’t watch every episode of TNG but the Moriarty Holodeck one was on and several others that I had seen and enjoyed before but now they look so terrible. As someone else mentioned the New-ageyness of the dialogue is terrible. Also the educating Data motif seems really, really corny now. I’m sure if I saw some of the episodes that people have been citing as the best again I’d probably have a slightly different opinion but in general it seems much inferior to when i watched it years ago.
mog
BTW what was “The Inner Light” about?
I think teh first couple seasons REALLY didn’t age well–but the later ones (after Riker grew his beard, as a general benchmark) hold up just fine.
But still, one quick glance at the movie “Generations” reminds you how amazing it all can look if you spend the time/money on the proper lighting. (I could watch that damn scene in his ready room, when the star goes nova, about a million times…)
I didn’t mean to sidetrack this into a discussion of good/bad episodes. To reply to the OPs contention that TNG has not aged well:
How a show looks is such a flavour-of-the-moment sort of thing that sometimes it goes out of style and comes back in. Whatever you nominate as the best looking show right now, I guarantee that it will look dorky in 15 or 20 years. Then it might be cool again in another 15 or 20.
To rhyme with interior designer.
I wasn’t aware that movie even had lighting. The Enterprise was so conspicuously dark in Generations, it was genuinely annoying. I couldn’t see a damn thing!