Like someone else said above, this would be totally undermining the entire OT.
However, I could see Kylo Ren seeking out a very bored Luke (surrounded by all the spoils of the Battle for Endor, such as Vader’s mask, his green saber, etc.), and Luke agrees to train him in the Force. But he creates a monster as Kylo turns to the Dark Side.
Maybe a bit too predictable, though.
In fact, I’d love it if we don’t even see Luke until the very end, and he begrudgingly agrees to train Finn and Rey. Luke isn’t even in the poster.
My understanding is that Lucas was pretty much winging it the entire time. He later claimed to have a whole story set out in advance, but that claim doesn’t have much credibility behind it.
(Of course Lucas had the whole idea from the beginning).
Who else, thinks that the masked bad guy is totally Luke? Vader’s helmet and faceplate? Who else would have it and Anakin did not live long enough to tell Luke where he kept his change of clothes.
At this point I’m going to say that it’s a certainty. Hamill is the new Vader, Ford the new Kenobi, Ridley and Boyega the new Luke and Han… Hopefully they will give him a good backstory for him choosing to take the reigns of the empire instead of going for him becoming evil for evil’s sake.
From what I’ve allowed myself to read of the spoilerific promo material Lucasfilm/Disney has put out, Kylo Ren was born after the Battle of Endor, and is definitely not Luke in a mask. If he’s strong in the Force, it’s hardly inconceivable that he would have been able to scry out the location of Darth Vader’s remains, especially since he appears to have taken Vader’s place as the right hand of whoever’s running the Empire these days.
I don’t think Luke is the villain, but I also think that when he sees Ben, Yoda, and Anakin at the end of the movies, he is kind of seeing them for the last time. I felt like they were smiling, congratulating him, and saying goodbye.
Yeah, I’m on board with this. Ford doesn’t yet appear in any credits for Episode VIII and he’s more than once expressed his desire for Solo to die heroically.
One theory is that Solo is killed by Luke in some sort of force rage involving Rey (who is proposed to be Solo’s son), thus providing some sort of motivation for the characters to take into the other two films.
I suspect we will be seeing a good part of the torch passed in Episode VII to the new generation of characters.
Yeah, this is ridiculous. It’s a flaw in the OT, though a small one, since one is asked to imagine for oneself why the Jedi would seem so distant and be mostly forgotten only 25 years or so (Luke’s age) after their demise. It’s not totally unbelievable, since the Empire seems powerful but in tenuous control of a fairly sparsely populated Galaxy.
But you add in the information from the prequels, and no. The Jedi were everywhere with huge influence in a seemingly robust and highly populated Republic. Forgetting the Jedi would be like us forgetting a big event from the early 90s.
And now, forgetting the Dark Side and the Jedi (that helped defeat the Empire in a major way) is just dumb.
Another dumb thing: Kylo Ren (Vader 2.0) says to the melted Vader mask, “I will finish what you started.” Wouldn’t that be said to the Emperor? Vader turned to the light at the end, after all. And Vader didn’t “start” anything–he was always doing the Emperor’s bidding.
Sorry. This movie may look good. It may have action sequences that go beyond the flashy Abrams shtick. But it is going to have a fundamentally stupid story, and it’s not going to be a good movie.
