Kinda like how, in our solar system, we have Jupiter and Snupiter. 
Levitate? Since when? I remember seeing lots of jedi who were capable of jumping higher and farther than non-force wielding individuals because they could use the force to enhance their agility, strength and reflexes, but a jedi has never been able to levitate.
Unless there’s something I missed in the Clone Wars animated series (which I haven’t seen all of). But keep in mind that in anime and anime-inspired cartoons (of which I would consider Clone Wars to be a part of), powers and abilities are always greatly exaggerated.
Shouldn’t the small texst be on top?
Heh. Not quite, but perhaps similar to how on our world, we have England, Scotland, and Ireland.
Yeah, but I think because he was shooting Force lightening, it caused the lightening to bounce off the sides and back at him.
That and it was a reactor core-that probably had something to do with it.
I think the influence of the dark side probably had something to do with it as well. Plus he played it up to his advantage-look at what the Jedi did to me!
That I will definitely agree with.
I always thought that line was “always emotion, the future.”
Not only that, but if the Emperor is shooting lightning into Vader, and Vader is holding onto the Emperor, they’re both getting pretty badly fried.
[yoda] When 500 years old you reach, flop so little your ears will not! [/yoda]
“jumping higher” doesn;'t exactly correlate with the things the Jedi are shown doing in the movies. It’s not just getting a little boost – if these guys aren’t levitating, it’ds because they aren’t trying. What about all that hardware that Darth Vader mentally tosses at Luke during the light-saber battle in the Empire Strikes Back, just before Luke loses his hand? He’s not helping that hardware jump higher – he’s movin it through the air with his mind. Big, heavy stuff, that in one case he actually has to pry off the wall. That’s a person’s worth of weight, with no muscle assist. And Luke pulls his lightsaber into his hand at the start of the movie – he’s not helping it jump.
Humph. I love CGI Yoda and felt that was *exactly *the way an 800+ year old Jedi Master should fight. How else was he going to fight? That was one of the most awesome scenes.
I do feel however that Obi-Wan could have done something. He was awake, couldn’t he drag his body off to the side or something?
I’ve got no comments to add about Darth Vader. Except maybe this. He probably did plan to overthrow the Emperor. Doesn’t every Sith apprentice overthrow his master? But to overthrow him and live, ay, there’s the rub. In the end he does it, certainly, and dies for it. To overthrow him and keep the power would have been a completely different ballgame, and liekly would have needed father & son, both on the Dark Side, working together. Which might mean a few more years of training for luke before he was ready.
Um, what else? Oh yeah - the coolest thing about the new three are the lightsaber fights. The main thing I don’t like in the old ones are the fights…so slow. Especially with Obi-Wan & Darth. I kept expecting one or other to start wheexing…“My ticker…”
The old ones had good dialogue, though. And the romance between Han & Leia didn’t make you puke to watch it - the dynamic was interesting and lively and the back & forth is actually funny. I still forward all of the romance with Ani & Padme and she looks so pretty but I just can’t bear to watch his clumsy efforts.
Also, I don’t particularly like the big war in the end of the second…where the Jedi are fighting all of the clones. I mean, it’s a cool shot and one of the few times you see Jedi fighting en masse, but I’m not sure why they chose to do it that way. They lost a lot of Jedi like that, and it seems to me their lives were wasted. Why not call in air strikes, and have Special Ops people rappel in and rescue Ani, Obi, & Padme? Do they not have anything like that in the future? (Past, whatever?)
To expand on the muppet Yoda vs CGI Yoda debate: I’ve always wondered why the aliens in “Return of the Jedi” – considering how much money Lucas must have had by then and how much budget the studio was willing to allow – all look like cheap muppets or actors in rubber suits. It’s like they blew their wad on special effects and then realized later “oh yeah, we’re still going to need to suit up some aliens.”
I have no dog in this fight except this: definately muppet Yoda. CGI Yoda is always just lit and textured slightly differently than the rest of the scene, while muppet Yoda is being filmed by the same cameras and interacting with the film the same way.
No discussion on Star Wars would be complete without this excellent clip: Palpy receives the bad news.
I would liken that to the way you could pick up a rock and throw it, but you wouldn’t be able to pick yourself up by your shoelaces.
When Jedi use the Force to move objects, they seem to be using themselves as some sort of “center” off which to pull or push objects. If they were able to levitate it would be no different then you trying to stand on a box and then lift the box on which your standing. Now I suppose a Jedi as powerful as Yoda or Palpatine COULD be strong enough to push themselves against an opposing gravitational force in order to achieve levitation, but the simple fact of the matter is that we’ve never seen anything like it happen, so I’m going to assume they can’t do it.
Holy Jesus, that’s funny.
Personally, I would have preferred if Yoda had stood perfectly still the entire fight, with his eyes half-closed in concentration and hands clutching his cane… While his lightsaber whipped around at insane speed under his force-control. That’s how an 800+ year old Jedi Master should fight.
Because he wanted the ultimate apprentice. And I don’t think it was Palpatine that created him, it was Palpatine’s master…I can’t remember his name, but he was the one who was “killed in his sleep by his apprentice.”
It’s never explicitly stated, but I think it’s who the apprentice was - particularly after the “but together we’ll figure out how to keep her alive, Anakin.”
Well, if you’re a homicidal genocidal manaic who, exactly, are you going to trust to annesthatize you to do to a little facial reconstruction? Besides, why would he care? He’s way beyond things like that.
-Joe
EDIT: That Robot Chicken thing was hilarious. Is that Quagmire doing Palpatine’s voice?
Well, whatever works for you. For all I know, this may be close to the rationale used by Lucas et al., but it doesn’t work at all for me.
It implies that if the Emperor had just been touching one of those walls, he coulda survived (since all the Jedi seem to do all their leaping with little required support) Dang! If he’d just been touching the wall a little bit he’d have survived.
But if Darth Vader was able to yank that big piece of equipment loose because he was standing on solid ground (and providing equal and opposite reaction to the action of yanking the heat-exchanger or whatever it was from the wall in ESB – Boy! He must have really good traction on the soles of those boots!), then all the Falling Emperor would have to do is, say, push against the walls of the pit he was falling down. Since he wasn;t standing on anything, providing traction, he should have gotten moved in the opposite direction. Then he would have come in contact with the opposite wall. Then he could have pushed off and jumped back up.
“Aha! traitorous Lord Vader. You are not as Skilled in the Ways of the Force as you thought. Now your Failure is Complete! You Both will pay the price for your Lack of Physical Insight!” (Lightning Zap)
So explaining it as “like pulling yourself up from your own bootstraps” doesn’t work if you consider it from a physical point of view. Whatever rules operate in Lucas’ universe are more magical. Better to say the Emperor just couldn’t Ground and Center, or , like Antaeus, he lost ability when not in contact with the source of his power (the Death Star instead of Mother Gaia), or something.
I wouldn’t have minded that, either. I just didn’t dislike the way they did it. There’s plenty to complain about in those movies, I don’t find this to be one.
Actually, I think that would have truly sucked. If he’s standing there, concentrating on making his lightsaber do the fighting, someone else could attack him.
Better to have Yoda be a little whirlwind.