Did he, on net? A lot of his method for “turning companies around” consisted of laying off people. It seems quite plausible that he might have killed more jobs than he saved. Do you have any hard numbers on each?
Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there
I can picture her saying exactly this and then later claiming that the LAME-STREAM MEDIA took her out of context.
Today, after years of hard work, I have finally made it.
That’s going to run through my head every time I see or hear any mention of Romney now, and I will laugh, and people will look at me funny. Well, funnier.
As opposed to the data you’re provided, which is … well, nothing.
You claimed that government employment has not gone up, so I showed that it has, when one includes contractors.
You then claimed that state and local spending has not gone up, so I showed that it has gone up consistently, in good times and bad, for years.
You then claimed that despite the rise in spending, employment has dropped, (especially in your unnamed area), so I showed that in fact it has risen.
And now you’re pretty much unable to even do math.
US population, 2000-2010: 9.7% increase.
US government employees, 2000-2010 (State and Local only, excluding contractors): 9.9% increase.
http://www.census.gov//govs/apes/
US government employees, 2000-2010 (All levels, excluding contractors): 23% increase.
State and Local spending, including contractors 2000-2010: 112% increase.
Feel free to keep denying facts and moving the goalposts for someone else. I’m done with you.
People don’t look at me funny. Or much at all, if they can help it.
I think you left out something. 
So many also die trying to get to the US by small boats,very sad situation!
If Romney should win, I think it will be very difficult to get the economy going, it takes more than a president’s intentions to get anything passed and that is up to congress. He can’t fire the Reps. that disagree with him, like he can in business.
Um, I think you and mister_nyx may be talking about two different phenomena here. Your figures cover the entire decade 2000-2010, which included the massive post-9/11 spike in government payrolls as Homeland Security ramped up.
He, on the other hand, was talking about trends in state government employment lately, specifically with regard to the recent economic slump. So actually, it seems that you’re the one who started moving the goalposts here.
Dude, go back and read all the posts, not just the last one. He said that it wasn’t true that there were fewer government workers, so I showed that had risen steadily for decades. Then he said “Spending has been falling enormously at the state level in most states lately,” so I showed it hasn’t. Then he said it was because of the economic downturn.
Government spending, at all levels, rises every single year. It does not go down, ever, except in certain states/localities for very short periods. It is not a function of any short-term trend; it rose in the 80s, in the 90s, last year, and it will rise next year. The number of people employed by the government, whether directly or as contractors, has risen with it. Many think that’s a good thing, but whether it is or not is another issue.
That it rises, and employment along with it, is the fact relevant to where the discussion began. Insisting that what he really meant was something else was just a way to avoid dealing with facts that ran counter to his assumptions.
His business experience is taken out of context too, IMHO. Let’s take STAPLES, for example. As I understand it, Romney’s experience with the company was as an investor in it for Bain Capital and as later a member of - but not the sole member of - the company’s board of directors, not as the actual operator of the company. I’m not downplaying that as an accomplishment, but it doesn’t speak to me as a quality that translates into being US President.
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I’ve noticed lately the phrase “vulture capitalist” applied to Romney. Irrespective of its applicability, I am curious whence comes that phrase, I don’t recall having heard it before.
Anyone?
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Rick Perry called him that at a Republican debate I think.
It started out as hacker slang, and was defined in the Jargon File a long, long time ago. Eric doesn’t have dates available, but Dictionary.com says it appeared in the dictionary in 1995.