The “War On Terror” is mostly imaginary anyway.
Yes, yes, and Clinton got a blowjob.
I disagree, he has shown a remarkable ability to pass legislation. Story. Especially impressive is the videotaped interrogations law that almost everybody was against. He has very good communication skills, a must for a president.
Like I’ve said elsewhere, let him have his fun. It might be interesting to see how bad the next President has to be before “Oh yeah? Well, Bush still sux!” wears out as a punch line.
Some of what he wants, sure - the parts where the Dems in Congress agree. Hiking taxes, for one thing. But the serious stuff - fixing Medicare, cutting spending, the war in Iraq - forget it.
He’s pretty and speaks well, and he’s smart enough to continue to do what is winning for him - let his followers project their hopes onto him, and bask in the free and positive spin of the media.
But the reason he won’t be strong on the War on Terror is the same reason he won’t be strong on anything else - he has no business, managerial, or executive experience, and not even a full term of experience in the Senate. Essentially he’s dropping out of high school to play in the NFL. Maybe the pre-season is going to be enough to make him a superstar. I suppose it could happen. But the odds are not real good.
A lot depends on who he picks for his cabinet, and he hasn’t got the experience or connections. Maybe he’ll pick Hilary as his VP, and I will laugh myself sick watching y’all talk yourselves into believing she ain’t so bad after all. But there comes a point where it is hard to forgive and forget. And I wouldn’t put it past Hilary to undercut him for the next four years regardless of whether she is VP or not, and hope he goes down in flames to the point where she can step in either in 2012 or before, if the doody gets thick enough, and save the party and the world. Does Obama want someone like that in the office down the hall from him? Maybe he does, if he’s smart and knows how to handle his enemies. That’s a highly necessary skill in Washington DC.
But sure, he is going to be Miss Congeniality in the rest of the world for six months or so. That’s while they figure out if he will put up with being taken advantage of. If he does, they will. If he objects, then they will shake their heads and tell each other he is another nasty American bully.
To be fair, it will be the same with Hilary or McCain. But most people have a clearer picture of their strengths and weaknesses.
But there is a downside to an Obama Presidency, besides the entertainment of political theater. Suppose something nasty happens like 9/11 again, and Obama freezes or panics or wets himself on TV or something? I know folks like Diogenes will be prepared to excuse practically anything, but what about the real consequences?
For heaven’s sake, North Korea has the Bomb, and a Holocaust denier is President of Iran.
Regards,
Shodan
Reading over some of the latest entries in this thread, maybe it’s time to ask a mod to change the title from “stick a fork in her” to “stick a spoon up her ass”.
It would be more fun if it weren’t so absurd.
You smugly observe that you and your co-religionists on the right knew Hillary’s true colors fifteen years ago, and that only now the left seems to be catching on.
Congratulations.
If only you could have exercised similar prescience with respect to Bush, whom the right has at last begun to devour. In other words, I am less than impressed by your political insight. The communist, er, progressive movement knew he was trouble for the past decade.
If anything, this suggests that the left pulls away from sleaze long before money and blood are spilled. I suspect we would be living in a much better world if others could say the same about themselves.
Amazing insight, Shodan! Too bad your magnificent political armchair psychology skills so let you down for the past almost eight very murderous and bloody years!
Pray tell though, what is this TWAT you speak of? The US vs The World? How’s that been going for you?
Well, it is true that he’ll probably have his hands tied trying to extricate us from Iraq-- Bush’s moment of wetting himself after the real 9/11. But then, that will be true of whoever sits in the WH next.
Nothing in any of the candidates backgrounds makes me believe they would not handle another 9/11 with the appropriate tact and sincereity Bush initially did. I doubt Obama would [after another 9/11] bomb the shit out of another country, he’d probably do something much more sane, like use his intelligently appointed cabinet to help him figure the best course of action. Or is this me being obtuse.
One of the miscalculations and desperations of the Clinton campaign has been to try to bash Obama as “just words” - when she doesn’t have much more going for her than he does.
In the process she’s largely communicating that we are all just listening to a silver tongue and clearly aren’t thinking right at all. That kinda grates on my nerves. I’ve looked at the issues. He wins. I’ve looked at approach. He WINS. I’ve looked at character and transparency (finances, etc). Guess who wins?
I really hope she isn’t stoopid enough to try to win this with superdelegates - against popular vote, electoral vote, or anything else. It would be a huge problem for the party and for the nation.
If anything though, if she keeps being THIS foolish in her lines of attack, it could succeed in making Obama a very sympathetic character.
(while I don’t like her tactics, I am glad that finally a Democratic primary wasn’t a “love-in” and real questions and ideas and vetting have occurred. We could have Kerry’d Clinton to the convention. We didn’t. I think I’m elated.)
You mean like Bush did?
Don’t worry, Obama ain’t no Dubya. And there isn’t going to be another 9/11 anyway.
You really buy hook line and sinker into this nonsense that political liberals are jellyfish ready to surrender to the enemy, don’t you? It’s bullshit. It really is.
And as I said before, the “war on terror” is mostly a fiction anyway. We’re not really “at war.” We’re not under attack. We’re not in any danger from a few thousand fanatics. Aggravating the situation and increasing the numbers of fanatics (not to mention bankrupting the country and wasting untold thousands of lives) with idotic, greed-based and illegal occupations of ME countries posing no threat to us, though…that actually does hurt the country and endanger Americans.
[shrug] You say that like it’s a bad thing. Getting taken advantage of would still be a vast improvement over the status quo.
Not to worry. They plan to have an aide by his side at all times with a briefcase bearing a copy of My Pet Goat in case of attack.
Yeah.
9/11, London bombings, Madrid bombings, Embassy bombings, countless suicide bombings in many places in the Middle East, foiled shoe bombers, terrorists caught sneaking over the Canadian border…all clearly imaginary.
And if not imaginary, then all orchestrated by Bush and Cheney to keep us in a state of fear so we go along with whatever they propose, right?
sigh
Oh really? Care to explain that to the families of the thousands of victims of terrorist bombings in The USA, England, Spain and half the Middle East within the last dozen or so years?
A fiction?
Are you SERIOUS?
None of that happened in the US, did it? So it’s not a threat to us.
You’re only making his point. “War On Terror” is so vague as to be meaningless. Does it go away only when all of those things you mentioned are stopped? The fanatical oppressed will always use terror against their enemies. Does the WOT go on forever, so long as some group is being terrorized?
I know about Richard Reid; who are the others?
I’m pretty sure September 11 did happen in the U.S., Dio, as much as I agree with your point.
Here is the Patrick/Sawyer discussion: http://youtube.com/watch?v=zbR_JxTHTz4
You might as well cite the Drudge Report.
Oh yeah, I forgot, sorry - if it’s something negative about somebody named Clinton, it *must * be factual.
The examples in this thread of people who bought into the last 16 years of smear campaign is truly saddening. Too many of you are acting no better than the people who you hope to evict from Washington.