Stick a fork in her: Clinton's done

Isn’t that poll from 2 days ago? Like before Obama’s recent wins?

Clinton’s done. All her “tough talk” and trying to change the nomination rules in FL and MI are just a loser’s flailing desperation.

Side point: indeed the “War on Terror” is overblown crap; it’s all just mendacious exaggeration from a GoP bent on trying to recover it’s blown (but always chimeric) chances for a “permanent Republican majority.”

Just in case there’s any confusion, I think that was stoli’s point.

As does the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers.

Sure, but I was just going by Dio’s link. This stuff is always reported in this very sloppy way.

It was the most recent I could find.

I agree with you about the way it’s reported but since the Dem Primary process is all about proportionality rather than up or down “wins,” I think this is a case where speaking in terms of a “dead heat” is fairly applicable. If the margin is very small then whoever technically gets the checkmark doesn’t really matter that much. An even split of the delgegates could still be fairly called a “tie.”

Agreed completely. In practice, it does not much matter. But the idea of a “dead heat” or a “statistical tie” is meaningless, and when this stuff is trotted out for regular plurality elections, it can be extremely misleading.

The way the Texas primary/caucus is set up means that the person with the most votes does not necessarily walk away with the most delegates. Meaning Clinton could walk with [slightly] more votes and Obama still take most of the delegates. Personally, the way things look now, I see him walking with both higher votes and delegates.

It just sucks she has to get so damn nasty against someone batting for her same team. This will only sour the waters further should he take the whole shebang - the only good news is he’d be her boss…sort of.

And if she is bitter she could be a major sore spot in Congress.

I suspect that he will work hard to reconcile with her when this is over, perhaps even promising her that he will not stand in the way of her moving on her version of healthcare reform from the Senate once elected, ie signing off on a mandate if she can get it passed in Congress and not arguing against it while she works on doing just that. Giving her the kudos for it when it occurs.

I can’t help but experience a bit of *schadenfreude *over the fact that the bottom is apparently falling out of HRC’s campaign. The sooner her smug mug is history, newswise, the better. I’m getting sick of seeing her every day on the news.

Just wanted to share this piece of electoral math:

34,765,609 = population of the 9 states + USVI that had Dem primaries or caucuses during the Feb. 9-19 period.

35,371,297 = population of Texas + Ohio, which Team Hillary says matter so much more.

Is there a site where I can see that? My search-fu is weak, and I haven’t found any. :frowning:

Not sure I trust even Zogby’s sponsored telephone polls anymore, after their total humiliation on Super Tuesday. But even Gallup and Rasmussen have Obama up by 47-42 and 47-40, respectively, in their daily trackers today. It’s pretty clear which way the wind’s blowing at this point.

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A clip of it is at The Huffington Post.

So if Hillary in her speech today said that Obama supporters were blind - does she lop the delegates and super delegates that are supporting her into that distinction as well? If so she’s going to lose a couple friends on the hill.

When this whole thing started, I was leaning very slightly toward Hillary, primarily because she’s been a known quantity for so many years and she shouldn’t have any remaining skeletons in her closet. Barack, on the other hand, is largely an unknown quantity, which made me leery of nasty surprises when the GOP smear machine gets fully spun up in the coming months. By contrast, on Hillary’s side, everything that could possibly be used as ammunition against her has already been dredged up, and would be old, well-chewed news for anyone but the hardline right wing faithful.

I certainly didn’t expect Hillary to expend so much effort manufacturing new ammunition to be piled up against her. It’s been very disappointing.

Heh. Sounds like there were a few isolated screams in her audience, yet his supporters let out what can only be described as a roar.

Isn’t the Teamsters endorsement huge in Ohio?

I think I heard on the radio that Hoffa was planning to campaign for Obama in Ohio.

Jim

Isn’t Bill Clinton going on about how texas is “do or die” pretty much saying they will concede if they don’t win?