Wow. I do not understand why What_Exit is suddenly coming down on me like a ton of bricks. Closed my debate All Americans need education in Black studies
once and came back almost immediately threatening it again. Insulted my debate by calling it “a mess” and “witnessing, not a debate.” That’s downright unfair.
Debate means when somebody argues with me, I get to tell them why they’re wrong. Then they get a turn to tell me why I’m wrong. That’s what we were doing, but some individuals including inexplicably What Exit decided to attack and libel me instead of making the counter arguments that are expected in a debate. I mean, I am debating the issue. Somebody comes along to insult me and threadshit, how is that my fault? Thread ban that person, it’s only fair.
I don’t know what I did to turn you suddenly so harshly against me. I meekly agreed with your thread ban of me yesterday and I thought we were all being reasonable here. But today I’m honestly baffled why you seem to have it in for me.
Don’t know you other than being here a long time like myself.
I don’t have it in for you at all. We never interacted as Mod and poster before yesterday.
Your thread is a mess.
You opened by Jr. Modding almost immediately.
You quoted a poster out of context to make a point to another poster.
Your debate is more witnessing than debate.
Dinsdale is correct.
I am not debating your topic, I am moderating your thread. There is a huge difference.
Your judgment about quoting DavidNRockies “out of context” is ridiculous. He was calling my OP “an inherently reasonable proposition.” I like how he wrote that once sentence and made it a pull quote to highlight it as an example of a good debate argument.
You call my self-defense against unfair accusations “junior modding,” which again is unfair, or else I could not say anything against an unfair accusation like Dinsdale’s.
You repeat the insults about “a mess” and “witnessing,” but that’s way too unfair and denigrating. Those accusations are untrue and I’m asking you to stop repeating them.
I’m not sure what @What_Exit was referring to but I would call this junior modding:
It seems wrong to me to start a GD where the topic up for debate is whether there should be a specific Black studies course, and then try to forbid anyone from questioning it by proposing anything else.
That was not junior modding in the slightest. I was stating my intention for how I planned to conduct myself in the debate. I wasn’t telling anybody else what to do or what not to do. You misinterpreted what I said very badly.
Now, here I am asking: Don’t call my thread a “mess” and don’t call it “not a debate.” I’m allowed to defend the existence of my own argument. That isn’t junior modding. That’s debating.
I accept that this was not your intent, but perhaps rather than lecturing me that I misinterpreted you “very badly” you should examine whether you expressed yourself clearly when you said:
“My intent for this thread…”
That sounds very much like an OP specifying the intended scope of their thread. It looks to me that @Acsenray interpreted your post in just the same way I did, specifying scope.
No, saying when I think someone is wrong is not junior modding. That’s ridiculous. Telling each other why they’re wrong is the essence of debate. I’m very badly disappointed in your misjudgment of me and your decision to continue insulting me after I asked you not to.
Not all debates have to start with “details.” That is also ridiculous. Details can be requested and brought up in the course of the debate. My cite: Thousands of Great Debates that started without “details” and went on just fine, without anyone insulting the OP.
Nonsense. He was clearly disagreeing with your false equivalence between responses in the thread and the “All Lives Matter” response to BLM. But you selectively quoted him to make it appear that he was agreeing with your analogy.
Since you have drawn attention to this and solicited opinions - my opinion is that you should have got a warning for this.
I will say, I’m pretty unclear on what the proposal is. It goes back and forth between “every school” to “all Americans” without exception to “a full semester course”. Is this something you believe should be happening in every elementary, middle, and high school? Colleges and universities also? Something that all adults should also be required to attend? Do you think this should be a national law? Whom do you think should write the curricula?
I know the details can get hashed out; but right now the proposal seems only one step less fanciful than demanding that “Every person should stop being racist, right now, without exception.” It’s unclear if you mean it in that “Everyone gets a pony” wishful thinking model, or if you believe it’s actually a pragmatic suggestion, or if it’s a thought experiement, or something else.