Right, Tagalog/Filipino is the native language of the largest single ethnic group in the archipelago whose homeland is the region where colonial political and economic power was concentrated. It is not a derivative of Spanish or English but it has absorbed a lot of vocabulary from both. From what I am reading, rather than be in any way stigmatized, the policy in the late 20th century was to make Filipino the preferred standard common language in the nation.
The Romance languages are just bastardized creoles of Latin.
There, I said it.
This is no longer true (and was a stupid rule to begin with). Just plain posting homework and asking for the SDMB to do it is verboten, but bringing up interesting discussion topics in furtherance of completing your homework is okay, nowadays.
(I am not a moderator, nor ever likely to be one, so take what I say with a grain of salt…)
Q: will the tagalog/Filipino language continue to have wide number if speakers
A: Not if the language continues to be treated the way it is now
This is only an anecdote, but my co-workers who speak Tagalog are all thoroughly bilingual or trilingual. They speak Tagalog at home and when among other Tagalog speakers, but are completely comfortable speaking English at work and some of them do Spanish translation when needed.
As far as government treatment, the city (Stockton, California) has Tagalog translations of most informational flyers and employees who can translate requests or complaints. But mostly, the language is being promoted and passed on without government help.
How is Tagalog treated now? Please be specific.
Exactly.
Doing the OP’s homework for him:
- Tagalog/Filipino is the national language of the Philippines, and one of the country’s two official languages, along with English. Its status as the national language is explicitly mentioned in the country’s constitution.
- As of the Philippines’ 2000 census, 28% of the population speaks it as their native language.
- It is spoken by 96% of the Philippines’ population which have attended school.
- It is believe that the vast majority of the Philippines’ total population has at least some working knowledge of the language.
- In the U.S., it’s the fourth-most-spoken non-English language, behind Spanish, French (including French-based creoles) and Chinese.
Source: Wikipedia
Thank you for that but I really want to hear from @Jagraze1, who believes that Tagalog is treated poorly. I want them to tell me exactly how it’s treated poorly.
Thx, @kenobi_65 , I can turn my paper in now.
A+
I had no homework!
I too would like to know what is the evidence he sees of the language “being treated” in a way that threatens continued use by large numbers of people (see @kenobi_65 's post for the references). Unlike some other cases that have been asked about in OP’s earlier threads, Filipino (national standard form) Tagalog is the official common national language, and successive governments have been strongly supportive of its expanded use for decades. Often to the annoyance of speakers of other languages of the islands.
IMO changes will happen, as with every other language, from the organic effect of a more connected world where people find that it is in their interest to more frequently learn and use one or more of the “world” languages (or of their general region’s majoritarian languages) in order to have access to what the rest of the world offers, and there will be a great amount of lexical exchange.
Oh, I know. I decided to pre-emptively present actual facts.
Figuratively, you did, via @Dewey_Finn 's request of you, which you still haven’t answered.
Tagalog is the 21st most commonly spoken language in the world with 82,300,000 speakers. It’s true that the number of languages is slowly decreasing. There are something like 7,000 languages spoken in the world at the moment. Every year perhaps a dozen of them die out. The languages that are dying out are those that are spoken by just a few people (and when they die, the language has died). Languages that have less than a thousand speakers could well die out in the next few decades. However, a language with 82,300,000 speakers at present is not going to die out in the next century. I can’t find any figures, but the number of speakers of Tagalog may be presently increasing.
This is off-topic, but I’d just like to say that now I get why you’re so beloved on the Dope. Mark off a new fan on your tote board.
Why thx, .
Yeah I knew I was off topic, too. Sorry.
Our language fanatic is only 14, I think. And he is seriously into languages. I think he’s truly trying to understand what’s happening to them.
He needs to learn there’s more to it than just liking languages. But y’all are way over his age group. This may take awhile.
See but just because languages with many speakers don’t necessarily survive. Sanskrit is a good example. Look, speakers does not determine language vitality. Many can’t speak Tagalog/Filipino fluently or as an everyday language. If nothing is done, tagalog could become the new Sanskrit
If Tagalog is considered a Spanish creole, then it should equally be considered an English creole as the number of English borrowings has increased in recent years. Maybe English should be considered to be a French creole.
It’s certainly news to this Filipino that Tagalog is considered vulnerable by UNESCO. There are certainly Philippine languages that are endangered, but Tagalog isn’t one of them. You can go to Youtube to see any number of videos where people are speaking Tagalog or Filipino, like this news broadcast: 24 Oras Express: August 28, 2023 [HD] - YouTube.
Do you have any cites to back this up? Or, is this just your opinion?
I’ve read certain experiences on sites like Quora