Stoid, Are You Still Confident that You Know a Lot about Diet and Obesity?

Sure. I constantly hear people saying things along the lines of “I know how to lose weight and keep it off, I just have a hard time sticking to it.”

Such people don’t possess any special knowledge and it is annoying when they act like they are experts.

Yes, very stupid. Stupid enough to first post that I had no interest in engaging with you and then just a few posts later state that I was enjoying engaging with you. With no apparent awareness of the contradiction. :rolleyes:

The all-purpose woo epitaph. :cool:

I would say it depends. Let’s consider a hypothetical world where everyone knows how to get rich by investing in stocks because all stocks regularly and steadily appreciate. (Our world is not like this, but one can imagine an online world where this is the case.) At the same time, most people in our hypothetical world are poor because they cannot resist the urge to blow money on gambling.

In such a world, the answer to your question would be “basically yes.” In the hypothetical, a person who regularly made money in the stock market and then blew it on gambling does not appear to have any special knowledge. If he held himself out an as some kind of wealth expert, it would be annoying.

So too with diet and exercise. A fat person who wants to lose weight has probably not solved the real challenge of weight loss. The knowledge he has is most likely worthless.

I’m glad carb restriction has been working for you, **Stoid. **Thanks for sharing your results in such a civil manner.

I think I recall from an earlier WoT that she did, and then gained it back but she doesn’t care anymore because the important thing is she proved she was right. Or something.

There’s a difference between engaging (constructively) and poking with sticks. But you’re kinda too dumb to get the distinction.

107 posts and no one has said, “Ich bin ein Berliner”?

If only I could buy stock in the deceased equine thrashing company.

I’d prefer a Danish. I might even take a Bismark.

Lol, nice weasel. Here’s what you said before:

You’re kinda too dumb to understand that you are weaseling. Either that or you’re a liar.

Stoid… that paragraph… the next to the last was very astute… I enjoyed it so much i read it to my g/f

People walk into a gym and assume that the guy with the muscles knows what he’s doing… Sometimes that guy has the worst form and is doing things that would injure the normal person… (much less if its better gains by chemicals)

We are predisposed to believe that because someone fits an image they have an answer. I’m as guilty as anyone else in that matter. Their are guys who are marksman in my department who couldn’t explain how they do a lot of what they do… I think over time and error you’ve hit upon something that works for you and I congratulate you for it…
Okay back to the bitter attempts at getting the last biting word…

Granted, Stoid is often not the most concise poster, but her first post to this thread was pretty straightforward and really not hard to read. I know mocking can be fun based on a poster’s past history, but it’s really not that hard respond to Stoid’s actual posts here.

For the TLDR contingent, I have provided a summary of Stoid’s response, to answer bucketybuck’s question: she lost 55lbs, has since regained/lost 15-20lbs a few times, and doesn’t want to lose all excess weight but would like to lose a little more. So it appears that, at the very least, she is about 35lbs below her starting weight when she began this diet.

Snorted the proud drunk.

Seems to me that’s kind of the reverse situation. By analogy, a skinny person doesn’t necessarily know a lot about diet and weight loss. The question is whether a fat person who has tried to lose weight and repeatedly failed knows a lot about diet and weight loss. Well, maybe the person knows what doesn’t work. But it’s unlikely they know what does work.

At probable best, the knowledge they have is something everyone already knows.

I hope she has, but the yo-yoing she is experiencing is not encouraging.

What’s also not encouraging is the dearth of low-carb dieters in the National Weight Control Registry. To join the NWCR, you have to have been medically verified to have lost 30 or more pounds and kept it off for at least a year.

I think pretty much everybody knows how to lose weight - eat less, move more. It’s that simple.

Simple, of course, isn’t the same as easy - if it was, I wouldn’t be 50kg overweight. There is no special knowledge - you need to do something unpleasant* and stick to it for a really long time, preferably forever.

*This is, of course, a matter of opinion, but I’m pretty sure most fat blokes think healthy eating and exercise are unpleasant.

Correct. Naturally skinny people don’t generally know a lot about diet and weight loss because it’s generally a topic they have any reason to be interested in.

Incorrect. I am a very typical fat person. I have succeeded at losing weight many times.

I had to successfully lose many times because I also succeeded in getting fat again many times.

And that makes sense for many reasons, hardly the least of which is that losing weight via the widely-agreed-upon method of calorie restriction (which I did many times, especially between the ages of 12 and 28) changes your body, causing it to gain faster, more easily, and more than ever before. A fact which has been well-known since Ancel Keyes did his famous study 50 years ago.

So please stop characterizing the above as 'Failing to lose weight", as you have repeatedly done. Losing weight and staying slim are separate and distinct things, and assuming that repeatedly regaining lost weight = not knowing how to lose it in the first place is simply wrong.

Depends on how you define “healthy eating”. Is it eating the way the government and big agriculture have told us is healthy? 'Cuz ever since they decided what was healthy and people started believing it, people have gotten fatter and sicker than ever.

It’s also not very pleasant.

And that’s the whole point… :cool:

Correlation doesn’t equal causation.

I agree. In order for a fat person to lose weight and be thin for life, he needs to do two things: (1) choose a diet and exercise plan; (2) stick to it.

Number (1) is very easy – a child could do it in about half an hour. Number (2) is much more difficult. What’s annoying is when people who know how to do (1) but not (2) pretend to have some kind of expertise.

I’m not so sure about this. There may very well be special knowledge which at least keeps the unpleasantness to a minimum. Part of the problem, it seems to me, is that there is a lot of misinformation and sloppy thinking out there on the subject. I strongly suspect that the low carb approach falls into this category.