Stolen Valour: Another Scumbag

[Boyo_Jim]

@Guinastasia

:smack:

I want to apologize to Boyo Jim for confusing his name with Bozuit’s. Don’t know why the fuck I did that. :smack:

Possibly because I pitted HBO’s Concert for Valor.

[The_Second_Stone]

@Monty

Which wannabe, the Canadian or the wannabe assailant?

Yes.

[Elendil_s_Heir]

I knew you’d say that.

[Inigo_Montoya]

@Bouncer

Not even angry, just feel a little sad for someone whose life is that… empty.

As a veteran, this.

Putting on an act to get recognition, when you know the person being recognized is not really you, just seems to me like something done by a broken and lonely person. Having spent a considerable amount of time broken and lonely, I’m more inclined to pity them. I wish something truly positive on them to give them some reason to be proud of who they actually are.

[Northern_Piper]

Update: Franck Gervais, who wore illegal military gear, gets probation, community service

The Quebec man who illegally wore a military uniform and medals during last year’s Remembrance Day ceremony has received a suspended sentence of probation and community service.
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He was sentenced to 12 months of probation and 50 hours of community service through the Collaborative Justice Program.

Tuesday’s sentence followed the 33-year-old’s guilty plea in March to charges of unlawful use of military uniforms and unlawful use of military decoration while dressed as a sergeant. Two charges of impersonating a public officer were withdrawn.
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On Tuesday in court, three veterans read victim impact statements.

The court also heard the results of a restorative justice project that saw Gervais being taken on a tour of the National Military Cemetery in Ottawa on Aug. 1 by retired Major Gerald S. Wharton.

“From the beginning to the end of our two and a half hours together, Mr. Gervais displayed appreciation for what the program had offered and was profusely thankful for my part in it,” Wharton wrote in his prepared statement, which was filed with the courthouse before his testimony.

“He was attentive to what he was experiencing and attempted to explain the esteem in which he held the Canadian Armed Forces, his desire to be part of it and his frustration of being unable to penetrate that barrier.”

[TheSeaOtter]

[QUOTE=the law, apparently?]
Every one who without lawful authority, the proof of which lies on him,
(a) wears a uniform of the Canadian Forces or any other naval, army or air force or a uniform that is so similar to the uniform of any of those forces that it is likely to be mistaken therefor,
[/QUOTE]

That seems really broad. Is this really all it takes to be a criminal in Canada, to wear an outfit that ‘is likely to be mistaken’ for the uniform of any military force ever?
Doesn’t this criminalize everything from uniformed actors on TV to Halloween costumes?

[andros]

@TheSeaOtter

That seems really broad. Is this really all it takes to be a criminal in Canada, to wear an outfit that ‘is likely to be mistaken’ for the uniform of any military force ever?
Doesn’t this criminalize everything from uniformed actors on TV to Halloween costumes?

No one on a TV show is likely to be mistaken for a real soldier. Ok, except to those who believe 24 to be a documentary, but I hope they are few.

Ditto for a Halloween costume; if someone wears a military uniform to a Halloween party, it’s pretty clear s/he’s not actually representing as an actual soldier, any more than the guy in the Obama mask is pretending to be a US President.

Or are you seeing some other meaning of “likely to be mistaken?” I mean, I would think that context matters.
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[Elendil_s_Heir]

@Northern_Piper

…Franck Gervais, who wore illegal military gear, gets probation, community service…

Thanks for the update. Seems like a good outcome to me.

[mlees]

@RickJay

<snip>

If you’ll examine his uniform, though, he doesn’t look like a cartoon. He bears only five medals, though one is the rare Star of Military Valour. He does have jumper’s wings. The uniform is otherwise pretty modest. He is also clean shaven, which almost all soldiers are. He doesn’t look like he’s trying too hard.

(That was post #48.) Sorry, but I found the (my own) bolded part amusing:

Lt.-Col. Bill Fletcher holds a degree in civil engineering and earned a master’s with his thesis on ‘how to influence people.’

The amusing part is that the caption is on a photo of a man, in military uniform, in front of an armored fighting vehicle.

[Bryan_Ekers]

Well, you can get more with a kind word and a loaded gun than you can get with a kind word.

[Robert163]

Scumbag?

You act as if going to a country that didn’t attack you, starting an invasion in which ~150,000 people are killed is somehow honorable.

[Ibn_Warraq]

@Robert163

Scumbag?

You act as if going to a country that didn’t attack you, starting an invasion in which ~150,000 people are killed is somehow honorable.

Someone who openly endorses the ethnic cleansing of Jews and Muslims might think twice before makes not such claims.

[Bryan_Ekers]

@Northern_Piper

Well, we don’t have many Civil War re-enactors up here in Canada.

I once dressed up like a Louisbourg Grenadier and charged across the Plains of Abraham.
Some picnickers called the cops. Totally uncool. :mad:

[Trinopus]

@Ibn_Warraq

Someone who openly endorses the ethnic cleansing of Jews and Muslims might think twice before makes not such claims.

That’s a bit of a distortion, old man. Unfair. He proffered a hypothetical, and did not actually endorse it as a practical proposal.

The thread about Kurita at Leyte doesn’t endorse the Japanese Empire extending the war by half a year; it only explores what would have happened.

[Ibn_Warraq]

@Trinopus

That’s a bit of a distortion, old man. Unfair. He proffered a hypothetical, and did not actually endorse it as a practical proposal.

The thread about Kurita at Leyte doesn’t endorse the Japanese Empire extending the war by half a year; it only explores what would have happened.

Er… He’s been endorsing it for several pages.

For the record, I’m not accusing him of bigotry against either group, though some of his comments are bigoted. Just making poorly thought out arguments about people he knows nothing about.

[kaylasdad99]

Word. I’m kinda hoping Der Trihs comes back soon to rein him in a little…

[Northern_Piper]

@Bryan_Ekers

I once dressed up like a Louisbourg Grenadier and charged across the Plains of Abraham.
Some picnickers called the cops. Totally uncool. :mad:

There’s a story here - more info please!

[Elendil_s_Heir]

Bumped.

A Washington State state rep has resigned after being caught lying about his military service: Military Daily News, Military Headlines | Military.com

[Northern_Piper]

That seems more calculated, for political advancement, than a pathetic wannabe.

[WF_Tomba]

It’s hard to fathom how he could have thought he’d get away with telling such tales.