Stop Abusive Violence Environments!

[The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun]

All right, most of the legitimate discussion of this thread seems to have died down, so I’ll go ahead and say a few more things to Smokescreen the Bear here.

@mister_nyx

Most people here certainly “see through it”, in the sense of denying the legitimacy of any complaints about their behavior. They “see through it” when a woman complains about unwanted sexual advances. They “see through it” when gay people complain about organizations that spend money directly to oppress us. I’m used to how people like you “see through it”. It’s not news to me, dude. I’ve both worked in politics and done issue activism on the things that are most important to me. I’m used to dealing with people who legitimately disagree (in ways that I often think are misguided, but are still founded in their moral principles), and I’m used to dealing with people like you who “see through” any attempt by a group of people to seek equality.

Once again, you’re deflecting my attack on your ego to minorities. I would ask you to prove some of what you’re saying about your activist work, except you’ve demonstrated before that you can’t show me a post in this very thread backing up your point, so there’s no point in trying to have you do something a lot more complicated. Way to prove my point.

Are you gay? Do you feel you have some right to criticize me for being too strongly in favor of gay rights? If you’re not, then that’s an incredibly shitty thing to say. And it illustrates exactly what I have come to see is the norm around here.

It’s not because you’re too strongly in favor of gay rights. It’s because you don’t care about the issue at all. Way to prove my point.

And for the record, I’m not gay. I’m not a Muslim either. Doesn’t mean I can’t criticize someone for their views on Islam. Also, are you gay? It’s a yes or no question so I hope it won’t tax your brain too terribly much. If you aren’t, and I suspect you aren’t, then way to prove my point.

To be honest, I don’t think you’re gay at all. The gay community knows a hell of a lot better how to advance their cause than you do. The same holds true of every minority you claim to care about no matter how obvious it is that you don’t.

Incredibly shitty thing to say. Coming from the guy who accused me of supporting wife beating. Way to prove my point.

And it illustrates something: you, and according to you most people here (I really hope this place isn’t that bad, but I defer my judgment to you), are only in favor of gay rights if the gay people in question are sufficiently polite. (Aside, obviously, from the many people here who are totally opposed to equality for gay people.) You are totally willing to “fuck[…] over gays” if someone speaks about gay rights in a way that you don’t like. Because apparently my misbehavior is an excuse for you to work against our equality. (If not, I wouldn’t be “fucking over gays”, obviously, because you’d all still be committed to our rights.)

And you aren’t in favor of gay rights at all. I doubt you’re even gay yourself, so you don’t have any more of a right to speak for them than I do, except I actually do support gay rights whereas you don’t give a shit about it. The rest is just more smokescreen bullshit, which as I said, I see right through it. But you’re just trying to make this about minorities’ rights, instead of yourself. Way to prove my point.

Hahaha. You’re gonna need a new bulb if you’re gonna do this much projecting.

I don’t think that word means what you think it means. If you do know what it means, then you might want to learn the definition of irony, because that sure as hell doesn’t mean what you think it means (as in, accusing me of saying something shitty about you when you’ve accused me of advocating wife beating). At least this time you tried, however ineptly, to attack me instead of using your usual smokescreen bullshit, so way to prove 90% of my point.

Them? Who’s “them”?

And while you’re at it, look up what a pronoun is.

Yes, it’s become obvious that you are incapable of responding to what I’ve said. Hence why you’ve leveled a bunch of bullshit attacks instead of doing so.

I tried to be reasonable with you and ask you why you hated this place so much. I got the usual bullshit from you that you feed everyone else here. Buddy, if you don’t want me to use the rhetorical equivalent of a jackhammer on you, then maybe you should rethink your argument of “you support wife beating because you disagree with me!”

Of course, the only sense that you’ve responded to me is that you managed to use the quote function on my posts. Other than that, all you read is my screen name and base your usual deflection gibberish on that.

But even then, the only way you’d have accepted anything I’d said is if I’d agreed with everything you said. Even you’re smart enough to figure out that I don’t. I’m giving you too much credit, though. You know exactly when people disagree with you because that’s your signal to get the smoke machine out and shout them down with your usual horseshit. Way to prove, well you know the drill.

Yes, you’re attacking me. For speaking out of turn. I’m well aware.

This is a message board. It’s impossible to speak out of turn here. You know even less about the Internet than I thought. I think you can guess whose point this proves. (Hint: It isn’t yours)

You aren’t fooling anybody. I know what your problem is, and even with this post you’ve spent most of your time trying to make this about minorities’ rights instead of your own personal flaws. I expect the next post you make to me won’t be any different. You have all of the honestly of Alberto Gonzales, all of the intelligence of Dubya himself, all of the integrity of Dick Cheney, and you somehow manage to be worse at defending your views (as if you really have any) than any of them.

mister nyx, here’s one question, as little as I expect you to answer it at all, much less with something that actually does answer it, if you hate this message board so much and it’s pretty obvious you do, why don’t you make things easier for yourself and go somewhere you’ll like more. (Granted, no message board is going to line up exactly with your views and if they do argue in favor of minorities’ rights, most likely it’ll be because they really are in favor and aren’t just using it as an excuse to feed their own egos.) I know I’ve wounded your house-of-cards ego, but everyone else’s views here, even if not directed to you, are wounding it even more since you can’t respond to everyone with your usual whiny deflective load of crap. So here’s some advice. Leave. I know I can’t make you, so don’t bitch about me trying to censor you because that only works if I actually have the power to do so (My status, which you’ll find right under my screen name in every post I make, says Guest, not Moderator), but I can tell you that if you want to avoid more damage to your ego, go find a message board that has debates on the level you want.

You said it yourself, there’s plenty of them out there, so you shouldn’t have too much trouble finding one, I should hope.

If you can’t, then way to prove my point.

[Spice_Weasel]

(Aside, obviously, from the many people here who are totally opposed to equality for gay people.)

I anxiously await your many examples of people on the Dope who are opposed to gay rights. Do you even read the threads here?

[UltraVires]

@Bricker

Fair enough – I had not heard of the Act’s provisions actually doing this, though, so that was part of what formed my “can’t picture” comment – extended, I should have written, “Since I’ve not heard of the Act’s funding provisions being contingent on state arrest laws’ content, I can’t picture how the Act might accomplish this end.”

Surely you can see how federal funding for a program might “enhance” state efforts at prosecution. Perhaps a state has a belief or a policy that when police get to the scene of a marital argument where both parties got slap-happy and there are very minor injuries, to not prosecute any criminal charges and drive one party to a friend’s house. Of course, by strict state law standards, domestic battery has been committed, but it could arguably be best to solve this dispute without a criminal record for both parties.

However, with federal funding this result doesn’t give the federal reports the tits and explosions needed to make the state eligible for MORE funding because they aren’t “doing enough” to combat domestic violence. So, not surprisingly, mandatory arrest policies come into play and people who the state otherwise thought should just cool off are now branded as abusers.

This causes abuse statistics to increase causing MORE federal funding, causing harsher arrest policies, etc. This is one of the reasons why the feds should stay the hell out of most things..

[BrainGlutton]

@Chimera

Do YOU know “what it’s really all about”? Have you been in a violent relationship? I mean, on the receiving side?

No, but I’ve known women who have been.

And right now I live upstairs from a couple who have been fighting loudly several nights a week ever since I moved in nine months ago, and the floors aren’t thick, I hear it all. I never did anything about it because I just regarded it as a noise complaint, the woman never appeared visibly bruised, some couples just don’t get along, what can you do . . . Until I lost my patience around five this morning, went down to pound on the door – and I saw the woman on her knees and asked if he had been hitting her – she said yes – I said, should I call the cops – she begged me to, he begged me not to, and I did, and they came. Don’t know whether they arrested the guy or how it will turn out.

[gamerunknown]

Good luck with that BrainGlutton, perhaps this thread served a useful purpose by reinforcing just how wrong domestic violence is.

[Chimera]

Good job, thanks for doing that.

Don’t think I would have bothered to ask if she wanted me to call the cops. The phone would be being dialed the instant she said she’d been hit. In this state the police don’t need one party to press charges against the other, they just need probable cause that an assault took place, which would be based on your testimony. Even if they decide not to arrest the offender but merely issue a citation, they are required by law to take the offender to the Police station to do it.

[mister_nyx]

@The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun

Once again, you’re deflecting my attack on your ego to minorities. I would ask you to prove some of what you’re saying about your activist work, except you’ve demonstrated before that you can’t show me a post in this very thread backing up your point, so there’s no point in trying to have you do something a lot more complicated. Way to prove my point.

Seriously? What gay rights groups do you financially support? What sort of gay rights volunteer work do you do? You have a lot of nerve accusing me of lying (and no, I’m not going to “prove” it because there’s nothing I can present as proof, and frankly, you’re a nutcase and you’re reinforcing my desire to preserve my privacy as much as possible.)

In short, I have done hundreds of hours of door-knocking, phone calling, speaking to voters outside polls (outside of the minimum legal radius from the entrance, of course) and other work for advocacy organizations. I worked hard against my own state’s anti-marriage-equality referendum which, sadly, passed. I’ve gathered signatures for its repeal (and I will again, because that’s something that I believe will happen in a few years, due to the amazing speed at which attitudes are changing.)

I have worked in an organizational capacity as well, doing things like dealing with the crazy amounts of data that political campaigns have to handle and helping crunch numbers and identify targeted areas. And plenty of the really boring stuff too, like stuffing envelopes and opening envelopes and labeling envelopes and postcards. I’ve worked on maintaining records and mining our records to identify likely voters who might be friendly with our campaigns in order to make lists of which doors to knock on and which phone numbers to call.

I’ve done the background work that’s necessary to make campaigns work like fixing computers and cleaning the bathrooms at headquarters. I’ve spent my own money to buy food and beer for other volunteers. I’ve done this sort of thing for years, spending tons of my nights and weekends (and personal leave days in weeks leading up to elections) involved both in gay rights work and in other progressive political causes.

If you haven’t done at least as much you have no business trying to claim I’m not pro-gay-rights enough. And I want you to describe what you have done in great detail, because I think your accusations that I’m lying are more projecting from you.

It’s not because you’re too strongly in favor of gay rights. It’s because you don’t care about the issue at all. Way to prove my point.

You are doing nothing but confirming that I was right about you.

And for the record, I’m not gay. I’m not a Muslim either. Doesn’t mean I can’t criticize someone for their views on Islam. Also, are you gay? It’s a yes or no question so I hope it won’t tax your brain too terribly much. If you aren’t, and I suspect you aren’t, then way to prove my point.

As I’ve said more than once in this very thread, I am gay. I’m gay, I have every right to complain about homophobia, and a straight person criticizing me for somehow being “anti-gay” – and, I’m guessing, you have done a hell of a lot less for gay rights than I have – is just showing what an asshole he is. Trying to use “you’re not sufficiently in favor of gay rights” to attack a gay person really illustrates something about your attitudes.

To be honest, I don’t think you’re gay at all. The gay community knows a hell of a lot better how to advance their cause than you do. The same holds true of every minority you claim to care about no matter how obvious it is that you don’t.

I think I have a hell of a lot more idea what the gay community knows – especially the politically active gay people who are working to gain equality – than you do. And I feel quite comfortable with my assumption that you are not about to prove me wrong by sharing your gay rights activism bonafides.

You know what? I’m done with you. You have shown that I was right in my opinions of this place more clearly than anyone else here.

@olivesmarch4th

I anxiously await your many examples of people on the Dope who are opposed to gay rights. Do you even read the threads here?

Seriously? You honestly can’t think of any posters here who are opposed to gay rights? Fuck, one of your fellow dopers once said they gave to the Salvation Army because they learned about how anti-gay the organization was from a thread here.

And for that matter, look at the fuckwad above who’s saying I’m not really gay. (You see, it’s clear, because I’m not nice enough to him when he spews a bunch of garbage attacking me.) If you don’t think that’s pretty fucked up, I don’t know what to say to you. But if this place were the wholeheartedly gay-friendly place you seem to imagine it is, you’d be criticizing him, not me.

[Linguini]

There are already numerous laws protecting just about every special interest group that liberals can dream up. This “Act” is nothing more than politics as usual including massive pork spending for special interest groups. If the Democrats paid more attention to helping businesses create jobs rather than play the game of dividing and conquering the masses to win an election we would all be better off.

[saoirse]

@Linguini

There are already numerous laws protecting just about every special interest group that liberals can dream up. This “Act” is nothing more than politics as usual including massive pork spending for special interest groups. If the Democrats paid more attention to helping businesses create jobs rather than play the game of dividing and conquering the masses to win an election we would all be better off.

Wow. Two in a row. You really are an idiot. You might benefit by reading about the law and what it does. Creating jobs doesn’t take precedence over enforcing the law.

[mister_nyx]

@Linguini

There are already numerous laws protecting just about every special interest group that liberals can dream up. This “Act” is nothing more than politics as usual including massive pork spending for special interest groups. If the Democrats paid more attention to helping businesses create jobs rather than play the game of dividing and conquering the masses to win an election we would all be better off.

Explain how protecting victims of domestic violence prevents job creation.

[Der_Trihs]

@mister_nyx

Explain how protecting victims of domestic violence prevents job creation.

Are you trying to put emergency room personnel out of work? Are you? Huh?!

[The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun]

@mister_nyx

Seriously? What gay rights groups do you financially support? What sort of gay rights volunteer work do you do? You have a lot of nerve accusing me of lying (and no, I’m not going to “prove” it because there’s nothing I can present as proof, and frankly, you’re a nutcase and you’re reinforcing my desire to preserve my privacy as much as possible.)

Translation: I’m too chickenshit to cough up proof that I don’t have, even though I’m clearly quite proud of my accomplishments.

In short, I have done hundreds of hours of door-knocking, phone calling, speaking to voters outside polls (outside of the minimum legal radius from the entrance, of course) and other work for advocacy organizations. I worked hard against my own state’s anti-marriage-equality referendum which, sadly, passed. I’ve gathered signatures for its repeal (and I will again, because that’s something that I believe will happen in a few years, due to the amazing speed at which attitudes are changing.)

Ohio banned gay marriage as well, in 2004. I voted against the ban, and it passed anyway. I would extend my sympathies, since voting isn’t too hard even for someone like you and you would like to prove to people just how pro-gay you are. Not that you honestly cared if it got banned or not, so I’ll withdraw my sympathies. (To you, that is. Those who were affected still have them.)

I have worked in an organizational capacity as well, doing things like dealing with the crazy amounts of data that political campaigns have to handle and helping crunch numbers and identify targeted areas. And plenty of the really boring stuff too, like stuffing envelopes and opening envelopes and labeling envelopes and postcards. I’ve worked on maintaining records and mining our records to identify likely voters who might be friendly with our campaigns in order to make lists of which doors to knock on and which phone numbers to call.

I’ve done the background work that’s necessary to make campaigns work like fixing computers and cleaning the bathrooms at headquarters. I’ve spent my own money to buy food and beer for other volunteers. I’ve done this sort of thing for years, spending tons of my nights and weekends (and personal leave days in weeks leading up to elections) involved both in gay rights work and in other progressive political causes.

You do all that and also have enough time to have pissing contests with a dozen different people on this board at the same time? Damn, I wish I was like you and didn’t have a mere 24 hours per day to get things done. And buying beer? Damn, I really should sign up for whatever group you worked with.

Or not, since either it doesn’t exist or it does but they’ve never heard of you.

If you haven’t done at least as much you have no business trying to claim I’m not pro-gay-rights enough. And I want you to describe what you have done in great detail, because I think your accusations that I’m lying are more projecting from you.

Show me yours, and I’ll show you mine. C’mon, I’m not asking for your long form birth certificate here. In fact, I’ll make it easier. Those message boards you mentioned that you say are better than here? Post three of them. Hell, post one. Then again, you haven’t been able to cough up a single post in this very thread proving your point, so I’m not expecting any answers there.

And a lot of nerve? The fuck? You accused me supporting wife beating. You’re a fucking complete lunatic, and I’m the one with a lot of nerve? Get over yourself.

In other words, you’re lying. If you weren’t, you’d be pretty proud of what you’ve achieved and would presumably want to tell me what you’ve done. It would help your argument quite a bit.

Oh, and I saw another of your posts in CS just by chance. I was right, you aren’t gay. And even though you asked if I was gay, I told I wasn’t. I am bisexual, but if you wanted me to tell you that, you should have specified to include anyone who wasn’t heterosexual. I would have figured that someone with your knowledge of the issue would know that sexuality isn’t a black and white issue, unlike your style of thinking. And no, I am not going to send you proof of that, since I really don’t want to know what you’d demand.

I will say that as for what I have to promote gay rights, it isn’t as much as you claim you’ve done, though it probably is more than what you’ve actually done. I was a member of a straight-gay alliance at my college. It’s called Stray Cats, and most of our activities were at the Chillicothe Branch of Ohio University. I’m no longer a member, only because I’m no longer a student there. If you don’t believe me, here you go. It isn’t as much as you say you’ve done, but at least I was honest about what I’ve done and even better, I posted proof.

If you want to get even more butthurt about my announcing that the proverbial Emperor has no clothes, read on.

You are doing nothing but confirming that I was right about you.

In a sense, you are. You know I’ve figured you out. You know I’m right about you and you’re doing your damndest to save face.

I’ve known what I’ve told you since before I even started this little fight. And everything you have posted so far has proven me right. Buddy, I knew how you were going to respond to me, almost word-for-word. People like you are pretty predictable.

As I’ve said more than once in this very thread, I am gay. I’m gay, I have every right to complain about homophobia, and a straight person criticizing me for somehow being “anti-gay” – and, I’m guessing, you have done a hell of a lot less for gay rights than I have – is just showing what an asshole he is. Trying to use “you’re not sufficiently in favor of gay rights” to attack a gay person really illustrates something about your attitudes.

No, you haven’t. I’ve read every post you’ve made. I even opened my browser’s Find option, entered in gay, and no one, yourself included, has mentioned being gay. The only person in this thread who has revealed anything about their sexual orientation is myself. (Go back up a bit and see where I said I was bisexual. You do know what “bisexual” means, I presume?)

So much for “straight person criticizing me for somehow being “anti-gay”.”

And of course, there’s the CS post. At the risk of seeming a bit stalkerish even though I happened upon it just by chance, here you go. I’m sure you’ll cook up some other bullshit excuse, but no one is buying it.

As why I opened the thread, I was going to make a quip about how I couldn’t answer the OP since I am bisexual.

I think I have a hell of a lot more idea what the gay community knows – especially the politically active gay people who are working to gain equality – than you do. And I feel quite comfortable with my assumption that you are not about to prove me wrong by sharing your gay rights activism bonafides.

I just did.

You know what? I’m done with you. You have shown that I was right in my opinions of this place more clearly than anyone else here.

Then I suggest you shake the dust off your shoes and move on to greener pastures, such as a message board more akin to how you think. Even if you are just someone who likes to lie and act like an asshole so he can use gay rights as an excuse to shout people down. Apparently this kind of crap is something you get off on. Even I thought you were better than that.

You may be done with me, but the only way you can be done with everyone else here who now knows (if they didn’t before, which they probably did) what a Hippodrome-sized asshole you is to click the little gray X on the upper right corner of your browser. Take a breather, make your decision, and then log out of this board. If you respond to me, hell if you post on the board again, you’ll prove me correct once more.

Seriously? You honestly can’t think of any posters here who are opposed to gay rights? Fuck, one of your fellow dopers once said they gave to the Salvation Army because they learned about how anti-gay the organization was from a thread here.

I remember that, actually. That was one Doper. Out of 7,189. By that standard, it would just as easy to condemn all homosexuals as evil perverts because of Jeffrey Dahmer. I’m sure this comparison will only get you even more butthurt even though I was only using it to show how full of shit you are, but we really can’t expect your pitiful little brain to grasp that one, now can we?

Oops. I just looked at the thread you mentioned. There was one poster who did that, except he decided to do so because of people like yourself, except with them I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and say that they truly do support gay rights and that the poster, MPB in Salt Lake, knee-jerked. Given your performance in this thread, I can’t say you have any right to criticize someone for knee-jerk responses. Assuming of course, that MPB was being serious.

Thanks for the reminder about that thread. You participated in it, and you’ve done an excellent job of showing your ass to the world. I think you can guess what this proves.

Although you might know good and well what I’m saying, but just want to save face by getting more hysterical.

And for that matter, look at the fuckwad above who’s saying I’m not really gay. (You see, it’s clear, because I’m not nice enough to him when he spews a bunch of garbage attacking me.) If you don’t think that’s pretty fucked up, I don’t know what to say to you. But if this place were the wholeheartedly gay-friendly place you seem to imagine it is, you’d be criticizing him, not me.

That would be because you aren’t gay, and if you are, you haven’t said anything about it in this thread. So I can’t say I blame the guy. Assuming of course, anyone in this thread actually did say that. (Aside from myself, obviously) Given that you have a way of making shit up, I wouldn’t believe you on anything. If you told me that the sky is blue, I’d look outside to make sure. If you told me that am listening to the score from 28 Weeks Later on iTunes, I would minimize this and look. If you told me that Der Trihs was an atheist, I would search for his posts just to be sure. (Coincidentally, DT just showed up when I refreshed the thread. It means nothing, I just thought it was kinda cool that I mentioned him while I was typing this and he showed up before I was done.)

Also, to get off the topic of Ol’ Smoky here, I just refreshed this thread and found someone with even less of a brain than Where There’s Smoke, There’s Bullshit:

@Linguini

There are already numerous laws protecting just about every special interest group that liberals can dream up. This “Act” is nothing more than politics as usual including massive pork spending for special interest groups. If the Democrats paid more attention to helping businesses create jobs rather than play the game of dividing and conquering the masses to win an election we would all be better off.

And here I was thinking that terincali would be the biggest buffoon who was posting something they honestly believed.

Whew, that was a shitload of parsing. Oh well, hopefully if mister nyx keeps to his word not to say anything more to me, I won’t have to deal with endless vB code for a while.

[mister_nyx]

You are a creepy fucking psycho, dude.

[The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun]

@mister_nyx

You are a creepy fucking psycho, dude.

This isn’t even worth a “NO U”.

[Bricker]

I’m sorry, but I don’t agree that mister nyx says he’s straight in the linked CS thread post.

[The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun]

@Bricker

I’m sorry, but I don’t agree that mister nyx says he’s straight in the linked CS thread post.

I noticed that after I linked to it. The OP said that if you were straight, post people of your gender that you think are attractive. The OP also said that if you were gay, post people of the opposite sex.

Now that you mention it, mister nyx might actually be gay (or at least, that post isn’t proof he’s straight), but if he is, then he didn’t read the OP very carefully.

I’ll agree with you on that count, but it doesn’t matter too much since he’s either lying or he lacks any ability to read anything longer than a McDonald’s receipt. The latter might explain why he can’t seem to grasp what I’m saying or really, what anyone else here is saying.

Also, I hope you don’t mind the thread getting hijacked. mister nyx really made a disgusting accusation when he claimed I wished that anyone I disagreed with should be abused by their spouses. I probably should have been a bit, or even lot, more restrained.

[mister_nyx]

I would like to state, for the record, that the only way I could “prove” the stuff I’ve done to fight for equality would be to give contact details for every group and every political campaign I’ve ever worked on. I’d have to dig up the addresses of everyone whom I’ve ever worked for and encourage him to email or call all of them and ask, and give out my full identity to him so he could verify it.

Not that I’m nuts enough to consider doing that, but it’s really inappropriate to ask for that kind of information in the first place. (Ironically, in a few of those groups, I’d be the person who’d end up getting the phone call since I kept the records.)

I hope other posters here are aware of how creepy and inappropriate this guy is willing to be. I have no idea if he’s tried to pull equally weird shit in the past but he may well try to do it again in the future.

[The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun]

@mister_nyx

I would like to state, for the record, that the only way I could “prove” the stuff I’ve done to fight for equality would be to give contact details for every group and every political campaign I’ve ever worked on. I’d have to dig up the addresses of everyone whom I’ve ever worked for and encourage him to email or call all of them and ask, and give out my full identity to him so he could verify it.

Not that I’m nuts enough to consider doing that, but it’s really inappropriate to ask for that kind of information in the first place. (Ironically, in a few of those groups, I’d be the person who’d end up getting the phone call since I kept the records.)

I hope other posters here are aware of how creepy and inappropriate this guy is willing to be. I have no idea if he’s tried to pull equally weird shit in the past but he may well try to do it again in the future.

All I asked you to do at first was copy paste a post made in this very thread. You couldn’t do that. Thinking back, I really shouldn’t have asked you to give out any kind of information like that (and it would have taken far less than what you’re claiming to satisfy me. Just a link to a website or two would have been fine. I’d have been happy with less than what I gave you.), since if you couldn’t find a post in the thread you were participating in, I really couldn’t expect you to post a link to a website, which was all I was asking of you.

I think most of the posters know that I have made very reasonable requests of you, and that you would not follow through on even the easiest of them. Seriously, I wasn’t asking for any contact information. None. A website was all I would want, and we’d be square. Hell, you could have just given me a website with better discourse than the SDMB. It wasn’t even one you’d ever posted on.

Learn to read, idiot.

[mister_nyx]

@The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun

All I asked you to do at first was copy paste a post made in this very thread. You couldn’t do that. Thinking back, I really shouldn’t have asked you to give out any kind of information like that (and it would have taken far less than what you’re claiming to satisfy me. Just a link to a website or two would have been fine. I’d have been happy with less than what I gave you.), since if you couldn’t find a post in the thread you were participating in, I really couldn’t expect you to post a link to a website, which was all I was asking of you.

I think most of the posters know that I have made very reasonable requests of you, and that you would not follow through on even the easiest of them. Seriously, I wasn’t asking for any contact information. None. A website was all I would want, and we’d be square. Hell, you could have just given me a website with better discourse than the SDMB. It wasn’t even one you’d ever posted on.

Learn to read, idiot.

Uh, all the posts in this thread where I referred to gay people as “us” are proof on their own. Except to you, psycho.

I don’t know what websites you expect me to link you to in order to prove my history. We don’t bother paying for hosting after the election (something I know because at times I have been the one signing the group’s checks.) But I mean that should be pretty fucking obvious to anyone who’s not a complete idiot. We don’t have websites up for campaigns from 2010 and 2008 and 2006 and before, so obviously I can’t link you to websites for every referendum and campaign I’ve been involved with. And I’m not interested in sharing my full name so you could search for it on those sites, even if they were somehow still accessible.

Any poster who thinks it’s reasonable to ask for the kind of personally identifying information that you’re asking for is screwed up in the head. There is no way to demonstrate my involvement in any past involvement in anything without sharing more than I should, especially given that it’s with a creeper like you.

And obviously I’m not going to share links to places I like to hang out. I don’t want to attract creeps like you.

[The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun]

@mister_nyx

Uh, all the posts in this thread where I referred to gay people as “us” are proof on their own. Except to you, psycho.

I don’t know what websites you expect me to link you to in order to prove my history. We don’t bother paying for hosting after the election (something I know because at times I have been the one signing the group’s checks.) But I mean that should be pretty fucking obvious to anyone who’s not a complete idiot. We don’t have websites up for campaigns from 2010 and 2008 and 2006 and before, so obviously I can’t link you to websites for every referendum and campaign I’ve been involved with. And I’m not interested in sharing my full name so you could search for it on those sites, even if they were somehow still accessible.

Any poster who thinks it’s reasonable to ask for the kind of personally identifying information that you’re asking for is screwed up in the head. There is no way to demonstrate my involvement in any past involvement in anything without sharing more than I should, especially given that it’s with a creeper like you.

And obviously I’m not going to share links to places I like to hang out. I don’t want to attract creeps like you.

Bit of a drama queen are we?

Stop deflecting the issue by making me look like a nutjob. Or at least, have the fucking balls to man up and show me the post you first claimed. The one where someone “expressed interest” in SAVE.

Or better yet, show me some proof that I think it’s okay to abuse my spouse.

As for the rest of the bullshit, I wasn’t asking for any of that and I’m sure you know it. In fact, you asked me what I’d done to help gay rights first, and I was more upfront and honest with you than you were when I asked you. Not that you deserved it and now that I’ve given it some thought, I shouldn’t have posted my creds since I trust you about as much as you seem to trust me. You haven’t referred to the gay community as “us” once in this thread. If you have, then correct me and show me where you did. Not that you will, of course.

Eh, why the fuck am I wasting my time? You haven’t answered a thing I’ve said, you’ve done nothing but deflect every question I’ve asked you no matter how easy it was, and now you’re grossly exaggerating who I am and what I’ve said to you.

If nothing else, you being this pissed at me might give you another reason to free yourself of this board that is obviously upsetting you.