If they have to use a bench after you, don’t spray / wipe it down, and then just give’em a good staredown as you walk away. 
How prejudiced and almost guaranteed to be correct of you!
I’ve run into Trumpists in the dirt-biking world. Kind of to be expected, although that world is a lot less redneck up here. But to have someone who speaks kindly and intelligently show their true colors is kind of rocking my world.
I am hispanic in FL and my friend group of other hispanics and some brasilians is about 50-50, though I haven’t asked my PR Trump backing friends if they’ve changed their minds. I don’t think FL is in play, and it won’t be again until some trends reverse. This is MAGA utopia and where boomers come to die, it gets redder by the day. The only saving grace is that those people are coming from other places, they are not just turning MAGA upon arrival. That said the comments by Nate Cohn and David Plouffe have me a lot more optimistic than before.
Okay, if you want to stop panicking, rather than going over the numbers, and over and over, try distracting yourself.
One of my favorite YouTubers did an election day special. The topic is election cake. It’s nonpartisan, so we’ll can enjoy.
Well, I was getting depressed before I started getting out and talking to voters.
Part of my family’s been working polls and the other part’s been canvassing. So I’ve been watching hordes of college-age voters leaving the polls. I swear I could spot the Trump voters (even without their paraphernalia and camo hats) because they were quiet and sulky.
Classic depression.
Others came bouncing out of the voting booths and couldn’t wait to share their excitement with us about how this is the most important election EV-errr and all their friends are voting, some for the first time and it’s so exciting and what can they do to help?
Keep in mind, these are RECORD NUMBERS of young voters, with a lot of young women coming to the polls in groups and voting together.
Does the heart good.
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eta: Posted a shorter version of this in the Mini-Rants Pit thread. And I’m reciting all this tomorrow… to a friend who needs to be
“talked off the ledge.”
I really hope that Democrats can stop being the Party of Gloom and Doom after Harris wins on Tuesday. I’m sick of the party shitting themselves in terror over every piece of less-than-perfect news and immediately deciding that the Worst Case Scenario is inevitable.
I dunno…most of us admit we have anxiety/depression issues unlike the Trumpers lol. But I honestly agree with you and should your outcome turn out correct, I’ll be the biggest cheerleader (I mean that literally being 400 lbs and all)
Maybe for a year, year-and-a-half, until the midterm election season starts and then the sky will start falling again.
It is not the party- maybe a few posters here.
The party had a nervous breakdown and forced Biden into early retirement because he had a sore throat on debate night. It’s what this thread was about when it started.
I hope we can at least agree now, five months after the fact, that the armchair neurologists diagnosing him with “cognitive decline” were wrong.
I agree to that, but many posters here were calling for that, and I was advising caution. he was tired. Now if you are old and tired it kinda drains you more than a young person. Biden should have cancelled.
And who in “the party” of importance was calling for that? A Senate candidate from CA? Not Pelosi, not Clinton, not Obama.
I disagree with the above posters:
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On Biden, I think he’s a great man, and has been a great president. But I also think we would almost-certainly have lost this election, and he should have stepped down long before the debate.
It’s clear he has some kind of befuddlement thing going on, and it matters: informing and persuading the public is a big part of the job.
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On the panic thing; yes if Harris wins my sigh of relief will be a shockwave heard around the world. I will be partying in the street, probably literally.
But it’s also true that American democracy and institutions are at an incredible low point: an entire party in hock to a fascist – perhaps tens of millions wanting a fascist, stacked courts (and I mean federal courts not just the supreme court), bigotry and conspiracy theories completely normalized as part of political discourse and generally an environment in which we can’t just have civil disagreements and change opinions on the basis of data.
Plus of course I don’t agree with Harris on everything, I’m particularly hoping that Kamala has been keeping her true feelings on Gaza quiet and we start to see some movement.
Currently the GOP is a cult of personality, so for them, the win is simply Trump getting power. They don’t care that much if he does anything he promised (few maga cultists punish him for no wall, healthcare plan, not paying off the debt etc etc).
So yes, in this environment Democrats look more like debbie-downers because we actually have a list of wants and injustices that’s pretty long and only very slowly get ticked off.
Sorry, mate. I’m an independent who almost always votes D in the Trump era, and Biden looked awful before, during, and since that debate. Ousting him was the right thing to do.
I hate to junior mod…but maybe let’s not rehash this here? Not sure how it helps us to stop panicking. 
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It’s 2016. That is what did it. I remember telling my wife on election day that year how good it will feel for Trump to lose big time. When he didn’t, it felt like a punch in the stomach.
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I think if the Republicans can learn to abandon their extremism and go back to Mitt Romney and John McCain type candidates, I’ll ease up. If they had won, it would have been more like “Oh. Crap. We’ll try again in 4 more years.”
He did. I love Biden; I think he is a terrific president. It was the right thing to put Harris in.
Absolutely agree. Its been strange to explain that the last 3 elections (well the last 2 and this one) have not been “normal” elections between a Republican and a Democrat, but against a Cult and a Political Party. I never worried about my actual life or health (being black and older and dependemnt upon medicines like insulin) if Romney or McCain would have won, there are variences with the economy that would have happened (to my disadvantage being less than middle class) but nothing over the top like Trumps Tariff talk. With Trump, Im worried about my civil freedoms, my wifes civil freedoms, our health AND finances.
There are some people who wont be affected no matter who wins. Me and my family are not them.
Not sure which of the countless election threads to post this, but I just wanted to say that over the past week or so I’ve been becoming increasingly cautiously optimistic. Anyone else? (I thought about starting a new thread for this. Just what these boards need, huh?)
As Trump increasingly seems to vary between mailing it in, and increasingly bizarre/offensive behavior, I just find myself feeling that so many of my fellow citizens can fail to see how much more appealing Harris is in so many respects. With the reports as to early high turnout - especially among women and youth, I find myself hoping such demographics are finally stepping forward to save use old white men from ourselves. Add in the many choice and other ballot initiatives which I expect to turn out the liberal vote, and apparent trends in the polls, and I’m finding myself optimistically confident that Harris will win tomorrow - maybe even by a comfortable margin.
Any other cockeyed optimists out there?
(Gosh, I hope this mindset doesn’t just set me up for more crushing depression should I prove to be wrong! 
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No.
Still no but for Discourse