I hate this. I hate hate hate this. I think every morning, some op-ed or front page story contains mention of a “carrot and stick approach.” It’s not clever anymore. It’s just really annoying.
Just read one this morning for the (at least) third consequtive day. Am I alone in my needless hatred?
Sorry Birdmonster, but I think you’ve missed the window of opportunity between “trendy catchphrase” and “common idiom”.
Perhaps years ago, when the phrase “carrot and stick” was still considered a bit novel and clever, you could have made a convincing case for everybody to stop using it before it got too old and tired. By this time, though, it’s moved right beyond old and tired into standard usage, as the generally accepted way of referring to incentives that combine rewards and threats.
People are no more going to stop saying “carrot and stick” than they’re going to stop saying, well, “window of opportunity”. It’s not an overused catchphrase any more; it’s part of the language. Too bad, but you just weren’t quick enough!
I think there may still be time to catch “herding cats” and “misunderestimate”, though. If you hurry.
The funny thing about this, to me, is that this cliche was taught to me when I was a child with no implication of a threat at all. The image was one of an unreachable reward. I remember an illustration of it that showed a boy on a donkey, using a stick and a string to dangle a carrot in front of the face of the donkey, to persuade the donkey to move forward. The phrase was “carrot on a stick”, not carrot and stick. Does anyone else remember this?
Yep, and that’s how I’ve been using it just this week - there’s this job I really want, and the person doing the hiring keeps saying I have a position, I’m “top priority”, talking to my family members and telling them I’ll be called… for weeks. I’ve called, they’re never there; they have my number, and never call. I put in an official resume a couple weeks ago - nothing. I told my husband last night that I was tired of chasing this “carrot on a stick” - look, just tell me “no” so I can forget the whole thing and stop calling. Top priority, indeed. It’s quite cruel, since they know I’m really anxious to start working, and supposedly the position has been available for several weeks, just waiting for someone to fill it. Look, if your neice waltzed in last week and said she wanted the job, that’s fine, I don’t care, but for god’s sake *just tell me * “Sorry, the position has been filled”!
No threat, just the prospect of attaining something I really want that keeps being held just out of my reach.
I like the phrase and will probably continue to use it but I’m vulnerable to the appropriate persuasions. Perhaps if you could promise me some sort of reward for abstaining from future use as well as some sort of heavy, long, blunt object with which to threaten some format of swift punishment for any deviations.
Oh, perhaps, you know, a CARROT AND STICK approach to changing my behavior.
We all can band together in opposition of “misunderestimate.” And yeah, it’s too late, not that I could do a thing about it except bitch & moan. It’s just frustrating to hear the same phrase ad nausem, daily, when there are plenty of acceptible alternatives.
I have to say that I, too, absolutely hate that expression. If I ever use it, please shoot me. I especially hate the clever look some people have on their faces when they say it. Makes me want to smack them.
See, nowhere in MY life has a carrot ever been thought of as a reward for anything. Carrots are not fun, they are not a treat, they are just a vegetable that one ought to eat in order to get a certain type of nutrition. I suppose a carrot might be a reward for, maybe making it out of being stranded in the desert, because I’d probably be hungry, and carrots are kind of wet. But if someone gave me a carrot as a reward for say, completing a marathon, I’d be like, “Oh. A carrot. Thanks. Asshole.”
A STICK, on the other hand…well, let’s just say, that used properly, a stick can be mighty fun!
So, yeah. I want them to stop because I don’t get it.