This has nothing to do with policies, especially fiscal and taxation policies. They have no idea what policies are being pursued and whom they benefit. They have no idea what a qualified judiciary is or who is being appointed and why.
The right’s support is purely based on identity politics and aggressive posturing.
Interesting. It’s true.
Because who cares? If you worked at a company making a great salary (whatever that amount is) and had great benefits, would you care if the CEO was a gigantic ass?
They are good people, to a certain subset of Americans.
Many Americans don’t give a shit about the environment
ISIS is defeated and there haven’t been any terrorist attacks on America. How is that not successful?
Thanks. It’s been this way since November of 2016 and people still keep asking “Why do they support him???”
I was just trying to make the point that supporting someone like Trump just to get policies you like is a disdusting trade off
If my CEO is a scumbag, so be it. If the Board doesn’t care, that’s a problem. I’m stuck for now with Trump in office, but I’m not going to wear a MAGA hat or respect Republicans who enable him. Trump would be gone tomorrow if Republicans gave a shit.
That’s fine, as it’s your choice. But people are still claiming “I don’t understand” when the reasoning is clear.
I don’t understand how people can support such a disgusting, incompetent, and ignorant piece of shit just to get policies they favor.
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Perhaps it’s because many people consider the policies more important than the individual behavior of the President?
That’s what I don’t understand. It’s not like he’s a little odd, he’s thoroughly reprehensible You can get good policies from lots of people, throwing away your soul for this scumbag makes no sense.
“reprehensible” seems a judgement call.
Here’s an example that I frequently face from a debate partner of mine:
President Obama ordered the drone killing of an American citizen. I personally find that reprehensible. Should I not be in favor of ObamaCare because I find the drone killing of an American citizen reprehensible? I don’t think so.
Similarly, people who like the tax cuts and conservative judges aren’t going to stop liking that because President Trump said some moronic things. Hey, he hasn’t killed American citizens with a drone attack, has he?
Is there a line, though? Does it truly not matter in any way who the POTUS is? As long as he/she gets favored policies enacted?
IANATV (I am not a Trump voter) but this thread smacks of many similar threads we’ve already had before:
I’m sure it matters in some way.
For example, imagine a President who enacted every single thing that you personally were in favor of. Then, it comes out the he/she was part of a dog fighting ring in their youth, and wore blackface while killing dogs. Would you stop supporting them?
What if it came to light that your Presidential candidate told Ukraine - “If you help me get elected, I will get the US to solve your homeless problem and your human trafficking problem?”
Would you continue to support that candidate?
They can keep liking the policies they support without supporting Trump.
From what I sense from my acquaintances or friends who do support Trump:
They feel that Republicans have “played nice” for too long with candidates like Bush, McCain or Romney and that it was time for a “street fighter” (in Dr. James Dobson’s words) who would use knuckles in the cultural war that was going on. They felt that liberals had been winning too much and it was time to make a stand. Concrete things like China, the economy, jobs, ISIS, taxes or guns may have mattered a bit, but nowhere as much as the cultural-war component. They felt outgunned by a liberal Hollywood, media, academia, and a Democratic Party that outnumbered the GOP by 22 million. (The desire to regain control over the Supreme Court was also a huge factor.) They felt that “playing nice” wasn’t getting it done.
Of course. But then the question becomes “Why can’t people admit when they are wrong?” which is a question that will never be answered.
This is puzzling, to be sure. Trump got the R’s back into power, so they can be grateful to him for that, but they could have swiftly impeached him and get President Pence to do everything they want.
The question isn’t about where the line would be for me as a voter, I’m asking you because you said it made perfect sense why Trump supporters continue to support him. When might it not make sense, given these favorable policies continue to be enacted, to support him?
Face, pride, spite.