I didn’t ignore you.
You’re one of my favorites.
I think you’re quite a remarkable lady. Very intelligent and articulate.
And I disliked the “train wreck”.
I didn’t participate.
Distasteful.
What worries me is that Scylla posted this thread to talk about position in which “posters in general” sometimes find themselves on this board, and used Opal as an example.
There was no need whatsoever for anyone to use this thread to further critique either Opal or Coldie’s behaviour in threads which have since been closed.
To address the OP, I think many of us have had to eat humble pie on this messageboard from time to time. I prefer to do so both in public and - perhaps more importantly - privately in an email to the person I think I have wronged as soon as I’m aware that I’m in the wrong. It’s something I do for me, not because I feel the mods or other posters have bullied me into it and my posting privileges are in jeopardy.
My experience of this place has been that a genuinely meant apology will be received in the spirit it’s given and people will move on. It isn’t conflict per se which damages us as a community, it is the dredging up of every single thing that poster X ever did “wrong” and in some way trying to relate it to their current “transgression”. It’s hard for anyone to apologise under those circumstances.
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Sometimes, I check the pit, just to make sure nobody’s ranting about me. I’m getting paranoid like that in my old age.
I assume you were joking jjimm. But in case not, I’d like to clearly state that as far as I am concerned, the correct place for contrition and backing down is the thread in which you were in error in the first place.
pan
Why? I just wondered whether you were at all capable of respecting a reasonable view that differed from your own.
I sincerely hope - Lib - that comment came out “sounding” different to your orginal intention.
If you have evidence of Coldie not considering other people’s viewpoints, then can you please post links to the relevant threads? And can you please explain why any of the mods/admins on this messageboard should be held to a higher standard than the members?
Maybe I’m the one who’s getting a little bit paranoid here; but as every mod/admin works for nothing except the love of being part of this community, and as the server is dying and the Chicago Reader has no financial or other corporate interst in replacing it, I’d be thinking pretty long and hard right now about throwing around accusations about the mods/admins which you are unwilling to substantiate WITH VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE.
But I’m just one of the “mod/admin ass-sucking clique/cabal”.
Wanna do a search on my username in conjunction with those of any high-profile posters, mods, or admins? You’ll find that we have disagreed over, and over, and over again. You’ll even find the odd mod/admin warning in there.
abortion is NOT the holocaust is NOT leather bound books is NOT animal liberation
I know it’s just about summer vacation in the US which seems to allow latitude for all kinds of threads which would otherwise violate the “don’t be a jerk” rule, but do we REALLY have to allow an invite that annual event early?
Um, that would be the thread you’re in right now. It is only my opinion, but I don’t think that asking someone whether they are on crack displays any consideration for their viewpoint that unborn children are human beings, and that their slaughter is comparable to other slaughters. And before you ask, I’m not anti-abortion, but I can definitely see their point.
Maybe we should just remember, and yes I know that this is more than just a message board for many people, don’t treat people here any different than you would IRL. What gives you that right? People are people whether you are typing to them or talking face-to-face. We all know that’s gonna happen now don’t we? It’s easy to hurt feelings on the board, I know I’ve done it myself without even thinking of what I was doing, it wasn’t that I intended to more than I’m just sarcastic in nature. Best to consider the poster, their method of posting, and take it all with a grain of salt.
This was a cute OP though, Scylla. You’ve already riled up a crowd. See how easy it is?
Jesus… I just waded through all of the shit that has happened here in the past few days (only some of which I was following at the time)! What a series of fucking train wrecks!
I’m with Scylla on this… take a deep breath before you post people!
Some things here get REALLY ugly.
Sounds like a mission for the Happy Fun Squad!
What’s the matter with you people! Come on, the girls n’ I are able to fix EVERYTHING.
::: Singing :::
All you need is Squad (na na na naah)
All you need is Squad (na na na naah)
All you need is Squad, Squad,
Squad is all you need.
(can also be replaced with “All you need is squat…”)
Elly
All silly things aside, I appreciate Scylla’s post, suggestions, and hope we can all think-before-we-post. There will always be friction and conflict, even with the people we admire and adore. Why can’t we just all… get along. (Oh, and I’d also like world peace and a pony.)
Ooooh! Happy Fun Squad time!
I’m not sure that the “Happy Fun Squad” are really allowed in the pit. I think that they get succulently roasted over open flames with spits up their respective bottoms.
You wanna be careful Elenfair. Don’t wake the guards.
pan
as the old man lay bleeding, dying in the arms of the Gendarme who found him, preparing to shift this mortal coil, he looked at me. He beckoned me close, and with his last hesitant breath he whispered
“*…Le Squad… le squad… [sub] le happy fun squad…bastards[/sub] *”
I’d like to think I am, but I’ll leave it to others to judge.
Let me state it once and for all: anyone who uses an analogy which is competely disproportional (for example, compring the Holocaust to owning a leather couch, or even in an abortion debate) to the case they are putting forward with the sole purpose of supporting their own agenda, is a fucking idiot.
Whether I disagree or agree with the topic at hand is completely insubstantial. If it matters: I am moderaty pro-abortion, but I can certainly understand the vast majority of objections the anti-abortion camp usually puts forward.
I guess the bottom line is that very few things in life are suitable to be compared with the mass murder of millions of Jews, homosexuals, and gypsies. I fail to see what’s so difficult about that.
I guess you haven’t tried my wife’s cooking.
That’s why I asked, so I could find out whether your viewpoint was a blanket bigotry against what other people might consider “suitable to be compared”. The fact that you now say that there are, at least, a “very few”, makes me feel much relieved, knowing that you do not, at least necessarily, perceive your own opinions as being the perfect ones, rendering whoever might see something differently a “fucking idiot”. Peace.
I spent a good part of yesterday trying to convince people that it is just not a good idea to have sex with the family pooch. A lot of the responses were along the lines of “ewwww that is not my personal choice but still I don’t think the animal is being harmed by it”. I was actually amazed that there are people who defend the practice.
After much debate I finally realized that if you are using the family pet as a sex partner then you have issues that are well beyond the realm of my experience or knowledge and that you are not going to listen to some faceless person on a message board when Fifi is sitting right there and you know she likes it…
So I have decided to just drop the subject, not because I don’t think it’s wrong but because it has become an exercise in futility.
First off, I’m stunned at the OP, and want to thank Scylla (to whom I have apparently given far too little credit in the past).
Second… to those who offered book-binding techniques and such in the original thread, I really thought I had addressed you? I remember typing out a post about how it sounded cool but over my budget. Either it didn’t get sent, or I typed it somewhere other than in the thread, or it was one of the (many) times that IE crashed on me. If it didn’t get posted, my apologies. I wasn’t ignoring you!
I’d apologize, but it wouldn’t do any good. 
Can I forgive everyone instead? {sprinkles SDMB with holy water}
I feel so regal!
Esprix
Coldfire said:
Would an anti-abortionist not put forward the following argument:
The Holocaust was so bad because 6 million people were deliberately and systematically murdered.
But abortion is just as bad because many, many millions of people are deliberately and systematically murdered every year.
In fact, abortion may be even worse because:
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in terms of raw numbers, many more than 6 million people have died from abortion
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abortion is still ongoing and is government sanctioned whereas the holocaust only lasted for a few years and is now over