They are far, far away from the US , and as far as is known, without a vehicle. Northern Manitoba is extremely remote.
Likely a few have, but owing to a lot of cooperation between police and other authorities on both sides of the border, plus the extradition treaties that exist between the two countries, it’s not a guarantee of getting away.
CTV News was reporting today that they may have been spotted in Kapuskasing, Ontario. The news had few details on this angle, but I guess we will see whether it can be confirmed, or whether it was a mistake.
How do you write a book in two weeks? ![]()
You hire a ghostwriter, who can hammer out a book in two weeks, and who agrees to put your name on it.
Sounds like the Canadians need to revive Mantracker
Travis Baumgartner comes to mind.
Reckon they’re dead already?
Wouldn’t be surprised. It’s pretty unforgiving terrain.
There’s no indication that they stole another vehicle to get out, and if they’ve been there in the bush for a week, you have to wonder what they’re eating.
They had plenty of time to buy lots of provisions. The terrain may be unforgiving, but it’s not that dangerous. The predators in the area are mostly the type that avoid humans if possible, except for the occasional polar bear if they’re headed north towards Churchill. There’s really no reason to think they’d be dead after a week or two. It takes quite a while to starve if you start out with some rations.
If they are still in the Gillam area, their worst problem for the next month will be getting lost and bogged down. After that, the weather will not be as nice, and I would not give them odds of surviving the winter. If they have not hitched or stolen a ride south yet, the seasons’ clock is ticking against them.
At this time of year the weather is good – hot in the day, cool at night, but not so cool at night as to be a problem. The bugs in the day will be a nasty embuggerance, but won’t disable or kill the killers.
The terrain up that way near Gillam is OK, but since it is relatively flat there are a lot of wetlands, so they wouldn’t get far on foot off-road (muskeg is miserable to try to walk on without breaking through). The fish are plentiful, so if the murderers have half a brain between them they should not starve (when a co-worker and I were fishing between between Gillam and Thompson, it was cast and reel in a fish, cast and reel in a fish – no sitting about waiting for a fish to bite). If they can’t figure out how to catch suicidal fish, they can get some sustenance from ants which are more than plentiful and easy to find in the somewhat sandy soil type.
Gillam is in black bear country, but it is exceedingly rare for a black bear to hunt a person (although it would be ironic if a crazed black bear killed the two crazed murderers). Gillam is at the extreme southern limit of polar bears, so the odds of coming across one are remote. Grizzly bears are extirpated in Manitoba, but occasionally one wanders through, so again the odds of coming across one are remote. In any event, being two tall men and a gun significantly improves their odds should there be a chance encounter with a hungry bear.
Interesting article about a couple of Germans canoeing who had to trek through the wilderness instead:
The possible sighting in Kap stood out because it was alleged that one of the persons in the vehicle waived a gun while passing a road construction crew.
When I first saw the photo of McLeod I did a double take, for he looks just like one of my telemark students.
Too many sightings and tips from BC to Ontario. For all I know, they could be doing manual labor in the Northwest Territories and not be found for years.
I will say this though: people aren’t kidding when they say Canada is Huge. Also, living/breathing people are found… even in Canada… lots faster than corpses in far remote woods.
Well, that would explain why the FLIR-equipped aircraft weren’t finding anything. No word yet on cause of death.
I’ve been following this story over the past two weeks, and I think a former RCMP officer interviewed by the CBC summed it up well. The search activity in the northern Manitoba area where they were last seen was one of the most intensive manhunts I’ve heard about in recent years. It included aircraft and helicopters with infrared imaging and extensive ground searches including door-to-door searches of every building in Gillam, MB and the town of York Landing that they might have reached, and roadblocks out of the area. So earlier on he had speculated that either they had help from someone to escape well away from the area, or else they would be found deceased. Cause of death will be determined by an autopsy but I’m going to guess suicide was a likely possibility, as they were in deep wilderness with no resources and the whole country on the lookout for them.
The folks between Thomson and the Bay must be very relieved. Gotta wonder if the murderers killed themselves 'cause that’s what psycho killers often do, or if they could not handle the bugs. Part of me is sad that whatever small piece of humanity that might have remained in them could not be helped, but an even bigger part of me says “good riddance.” I hope that knowing what has become of the murderers will help the grieving parents and the grieving spouse as they try to find closure over the years.
They were only 5 miles from their car. I wondered if they are 2 more victims and the killer is still out there? There really wasn’t anything to confirm them as the killers except their presumed absence from the scene, was there?
StG
Yes there was, but I haven’t seen many details about the evidence. They were charged with the murder of UBC botany prof Leonard Dyck and were suspects in the murder of the other couple, and murder charges aren’t laid lightly. They were also described as armed and dangerous and the subjects of one of the most extensive manhunts ever. They torched their own car and were obviously on the run. The evidence against them was obviously a lot more than just a hunch.