[QUOTE=Starving Artist]
Can somebody please point me to a forum, or at least a thread around here where ignorance is being fought?
kthxbai
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The blog itself mentions things that “the wrong kind of white people” do. It’s not so much “white like this,” as “20-40 year old liberal white hipsters like this.”
Does liking Tshirts count toward the total if I like them for completely different reasons than postulated in that list?
[QUOTE=bouv]
The blog itself mentions things that “the wrong kind of white people” do. It’s not so much “white like this,” as “20-40 year old liberal white hipsters like this.”
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Pretty much my point. Thanks. 
(bolding mine) 
[QUOTE=Antinor01]
Does liking Tshirts count toward the total if I like them for completely different reasons than postulated in that list?
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…How else would you like a t-shirt? 
Or do you mean you like types of shirts not mentioned?
(Actually, the t-shirt thing is one I’m guilty of. I have three shirts from Threadless.com, as well as a few others that are more form fitting than “the wrong type” of t-shirts, and have graphics on them, etc…
Although I don’t have any fake vintage ones, though. At least there’s that…right?
[QUOTE=that white people list]
Many people and cultures view t-shirts as a simple piece of apparel that can be acquired cheaply and worn in casual situations. For white people, it’s never that easy. The t-shirt is one of the most complex and expressive items in their entire wardrobe.
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I like them for the cheap, comfortable reason. The whole tshirt hierarchy bit is totally not me.
I got several hits on that list, but fortuantely I am not really white, as in
[QUOTE=#47 Art Degrees]
But what about the white people who study Science, Engineering or Business? Unless they become doctors, they essentially lose white person status (and can only be regained by working at a non-profit).
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Provided the author means medical doctors (as in several other contexts) I’m officially not white.
[QUOTE=bouv]
The blog itself mentions things that “the wrong kind of white people” do. It’s not so much “white like this,” as “20-40 year old liberal white hipsters like this.”
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So this is yet another example of how Americans frame issues in terms of race, since we refuse to acknowledge class divisions?
I actually DID know someone who got fed up and moved to Canada. He didn’t like it and moved back. (To Houston, which shows he was kind of screwed up to begin with.)
[QUOTE=wisernow]
Europe.
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I would say Australia.
[QUOTE=elfkin477]
Everyone you know votes democrat, don’t they. Yeah, when we moved back there for a while I soon realized being a republican in MA is kind of like being the only gay eskimo in your tribe…
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You’ve got me there. I remember the day my mother came to me, horrified, after discovering…
my father VOTES REPUBLICAN!
Hush, don’t let the neighbors know!
[QUOTE=trupa]
Is it worth going to the trouble of learning such a capricious language merely as a symbol of wealth and sophistication? Cause it can’t be for for practical reasons. French is spoken in France, the Quebec province in Canada, and various African and S.E. Asian third world countries.
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Because it cannot possibly be that someone might wish to do business with, visit, live in, study, study in, read literature from, appreciate music or film from, fall in love with someone from, or otherwise interact in any way with those parts of the world.
Soon that list will be made into a book which will sit on white coffee tables for about three weeks while it burns away its irony points and then it will vanish into oblivion.
[QUOTE=Siam Sam]
See here.
Recognize yourself?
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How are you on #71, being the only white person around?
“But if there is a table occupied entirely by white people, it is deemed unacceptable.”
Hell, that’s why I avoid entire sections of Tokyo!
Although I do ride my bike to work.
[QUOTE=Slithy Tove]
So this is yet another example of how Americans frame issues in terms of race, since we refuse to acknowledge class divisions?
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Maybe. After all, “race” originally meant “culture” at least as much as it meant any kind of genetic thing… (hence “Hispanic” as a “race”) This seems to be talking about a certain kind of “class culture.”
I must be black 
Have you guys read the comments on that blog? :eek: I think a lot of people came to the blog by googling “white people” and hoping to find a white supremacist cite.
[QUOTE=Dominic Mulligan]
I must be black 
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Then you must love these white people: 
http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/index.html
[QUOTE=River Hippie]
Blues music.
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When I was in Chicago last year visiting some blues clubs, I was amused to see the audience about evenly divided between whites and Asians!
[QUOTE=trupa]
And what is it with the New-York times crowd and their fascination with French? Is it worth going to the trouble of learning such a capricious language merely as a symbol of wealth and sophistication? Cause it can’t be for for practical reasons.
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I could very well be incorrect in this, but according to my observations, (although I do speak only English and French, and this could thus be confirmation bias) in reading literature, I find that I encounter a larger amount of books (written in English) with bits of French in them than other languages.
It’s also seems to me (from observation only, not research, I hasten to add) that up until relatively recently, France had a lot of cultural influence, moreso than most other languages/cultures, which is reflected in English literature. A brief search on wikipedia* seems to confirm this:
[QUOTE=wikipedia article on French literature]
Although the European prominence of French literature was eclipsed in part by vernacular literature in Italy in the 14th century, literature in France in the 16th century underwent a major creative evolution, and through the political and artistic programs of the Ancien Régime, French literature came to dominate European letters in the 17th century.
In the 18th century, French became the literary lingua franca and diplomatic language of western Europe (and, to a certain degree, in America), and French letters have had a profound impact on all European and American literary traditions while at the same time being heavily influenced by these other national traditions (for example: British and German Romanticism in the nineteenth century). French literary developments of the 19th and 20th centuries have had a particularly strong effect on modern world literature, including: symbolism, naturalism, the “roman-fleuves” of Balzac, Zola and Proust, surrealism, existentialism, and the “Theatre of the Absurd”.
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(I hope that wasn’t too much to quote from an outside source.)
In short, although nowadays the day-to-day practicality of speaking Spanish as a second language (in the US) overwhelms that of speaking French, and the practicality of speaking French in the rest of the world outside France and Quebec and other current/former French colonies/strongholds is greatly diminished, there is still literary (and culinary, for that matter) practicality in learning it, if for no other reason (I do find it to be quite a lovely language).
*Linky: French literature - Wikipedia