Yes, you fucking moron. Those situations are exactly analogous. Go home, you simpering twit, and leave the thinking to those who are at least above the first percentile in intelligence.
You are right.
But that wall is analogous to the thousands ghettos that existed till not so long ago all over europe. And that makes this ad not kosher.
Actually, it is a good analogy - just like in Europe, the Jews are inside the walls, and their enemies are without. The main difference is that this time, we’re doing it voluntarily.
That’s beautiful.
To anyone who doesn’t understand why the ad might be a slap in the face to a Palestinian, there’s your answer.
Oh - absolutely. I mean, why would soldiers at the site of a *weekly demonstration *(which has been taking place for at least 3 years), intepret the soccer balls as anything other than a gesture of good will?
There’s a really good movie about that: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424205/
Who built the walls of this ghetto?
Who decides who can pass and who can not?
Who patrols those walls?
Besides not every Palestinian is your enemy.
We will always have walls around our country, to keep our enemies out. I guess you’ll have to deal with it.
As for all Palestinians not being our enemies - I agree, but the ones who are look a lot like the ones who aren’t. I’m not about to give anyone the benefit of the doubt.
But this is the point, isn’t it? The ad depicts an underlying goodwill (from both sides) that simply doesn’t exist. Israelis would never respond favourably to a projectile from the Palestinian side (as handily proven by those protestors), and the Palestinians in turn don’t view the wall as some sort of jolly obstacle that can spark a friendly game of footy. If you’re unwilling to extend any sort of presumption of innocence their way, can you blame them for being a touch irritated by an Israeli depiction that shows they really just want to play football with you?
And probably the saddest children’s book ever written.
I’m optimistic - I see it as a depiction of how trust should be built: slowly but surely. You don’t tear down the fence and them hope you’ll be able to trust the people on the other side: first you learn to trust and then, 10, 20, 50 years later, you gradually lower your defenses.
And yes, it *is *a fantasy. The Israelis aren’t shooting tear gas, and the Palestinains are throwing balls, not granades. It’s a commercial - it’s supposed to make people feel good.
Even if I agree that its Israel and Palestina’s problem the sad fact is that your actions influenceevents thousands of kilometers away.
And for your second point you`ll never build trust with walls and if you treat everyone as a terrorist until proven otherwise.
You should know that by now.
Trust is all well and good , but the fence *works *; ever since it’s been up, terrorist attacks inside the Green Line have dropped from one a week to one a year. I’ll take that over feel-good moments any day.
So believe me, the fence isn’t going away. It may shift a mile or two as a result of peace negotiations, but we’re not going to be tearing it within my lifetime or yours.
I am only 29 and I plan to live till my 90s…
I think the analogy between Israelis and Nazis is perfect. Except that Jews weren’t sending teenage suicide bombers into German coffee houses and buses to blow up civilians, and that Israel isn’t gassing Palestinians, and the fact that despite having the ability to kill every Palestinian, Israel hasn’t done so. Other than that, though, it’s a really good analogy.
It may work, but as other places in the world get zero terrorist attacks. So there’s no way it’s the final solution.
Other places in the world have their own unique histories - most of which involved methods far more brutal than a mere fence.
A rather poor choice of words. But you are right of course, the final solution is for the Palestinians to stop using terrorism. If they had chosen a different tack than kidnapping Iraeli atheletes in Munich and following it up with years of attacks on women and children then they would probably have a thriving state right now.
If all soccer were played with a large wall between two teams, I think I would find it more interesting and even might want to participate.