Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

Well, yes, it might be. I am my cite. When I was growing up (single mom, btw) we lived on food stamps & food drives at the church and my younger brother’s shoes and clothes were all my used clothes until 9th grade and we only had one small black & white TV (a donation from someone, I think) well into my senior year at high school, so yeah - a better life than living in shit holes is almost certainly within reach to those that work for it.

I do believe that. Are you saying a better life is not within reach to the poor?

I wonder if more poor people or rich people die from guns, btw.

OK, so poor people ARE lazy. I always thought the same. Are you sure you are not a republican?

Do you really wonder? I thought you had this whole plan to selectively tax them out of the hands of poor people?

You’re an anonymous poster on the internet. If you’re looking to convince anyone other than yourself, you probably need more than one anonymous anecdote.

So why didn’t your mom work for it? Was she lazy?

For a lot of them, a $3 million dollar house is not within reach. A single family house is not within reach. If the most recent housing crisis taught us anything, it taught us that not everyone can afford a nice home no matter how much they may want one.

Well seeing as how poor people live in shitty neighborhoods, isn’t the answer pretty obvious? Are you under the impression that law abiding poor people are killing each other off? Or do you recognize that its mostly the result of criminals and gansters.

So he’s basically saying his mom was lazy and both he and his brother used to be lazy when he was a kid.

He really doesn’t care whose hands he takes them from as long as there is a smaller number of guns out there.

I don’t know what the fuck you’re smoking, but you might want to put the pipe down.

Huh? My mom worked two jobs putting her kids through school and putting nutritious food on the table. She ended up owning her own company, is now retired, and owns property down in the Keys.

Trying to integrate into your main point, and failing.

  1. Even with *ridiculous amounts *of firearms training, gun owners will still shoot their own kids/senile neighbors/etc, so training is pointless?
  2. We shouldn’t allow anyone with diagnosed anxiety disorders, including vets with PTSD, to own guns?
  3. Acceptable losses?
  4. ?

This all just sounds like you are making it up as you go along.

Just that PastTense was likely wrong to say the guy couldn’t have panicked.

So does that nonsense about you getting attacked with a 2x4.

Whatever helps you and your guns sleep better at night, kiddo.

Poor people can’t afford the guns they need to defend their families. The government can step in and subsidize gun purchases for the poor, especially those urban poor. I wonder which side would flinch first.

Oregon county residents form armed watches after Sheriff announces service cutbacks:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/26/citizens-take-law-into-own-hands-after-cash-strapped-ore-county-guts-sheriff/

Sounds like a libertarian paradise. Best of luck to them.

I have a police report. Want to put money on it? Let’s make it a lot of money.

Just to clarify your opinion, do you really think most poor people are lazy?

Not only does he have a police report but he still has the original 2x4 - which he has fashioned into a cross to climb up on.

I’m just an anecdote of a gun used properly to prevent a homicide. Sorry you all like to pretend that never happens. I just can’t help but mention that I know at least one time it happened.

But Jack, since you are here, and obviously don’t like guns, what are your thoughts on poor people moving to good neighborhoods and buying alarm systems instead of guns? Are they really just too lazy to do so?

I believe that people use guns to defend themselves.

I do not believe that you ever did. I think you are a liar and a prick. I doubt your story.

The last time you and I shared an exchange on this topic, as I recall, the police report was forthcoming. It never appeared.

Cracked ran a good article on guns today and I thought those of y’all who are regular contributors to this thread might enjoy it as points for discussion: 5 Mind-Blowing Facts Nobody Told You About Guns.

I thought the bit about suicides was very well-written, well-researched and thought provoking, for instance.

A) Define ‘poor’

B) Define ‘lazy’.